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Old 01-28-2013, 11:25 PM
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Talking Red Lions Control Arm Bushings Review

Hello all,

I have had the great opportunity to have these bushings on my car for a really long time. It wasnt until recently I have had the opportunity to drive my car.

I must say that I like them a lot. I was expecting to have a very rough ride and was willing to sacrifice ride quality for some traction. Fortunately I have the best of both worlds. On smooth roads the car feels great. Really nice and smooth. Over huge NYC potholes the car stays in control.

On turns the car feels great aswell. Granted I have LSD, the car is glued to the road. I have to get used to the car with the combination of sticky tires, LSD and solid bushings.

As for traction. There is virtually no wheel hop. Keep in mind I have the Nylatron motor mounts (front an rear) that Red offers and the control arm bushings. At my power level I am vey impressed. I wish the weather wasnt so cold so I wouldnt spin so much. If I spin a lot I do get some wheel hop but it is minimal. Nothing like how it was from before when the car felt like it was hopping a few inches up and the slamming down. I would imagine other cars with less power would have almost no wheel hop.

Overall I like these. Theres no slop in the front end and the car is fun to drive in the turns. Traction is great even though there are other factors involved.

I bought brand new control arms and had them sent directly to Red for him to press them in. This is a good idea for those who dont want any down time.
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Good review. Something else to add to my list of things to do.
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Thanks for the great review Tuko.

Would you recommend these for any Altima, regardless of power produced?
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Absolutely. No more sloppiness and no fighting the wheel. Overall im very happy with the motor mounts and the control arm bushings. They make a great combo.
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These are the LCA's?
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Yes they are. All four bushings.
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I bought brand new control arms and had them sent directly to Red for him to press them in. This is a good idea for those who dont want any down time.
Thanks for you review. IMO sending new LCA for the bushing install is the only way to go. You want to have a new ball joint to go along with this set up.
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Thats exactly why i sent new ones.
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My front sway is still disconnected, I wonder if these would make the steering less twitchy without screwing with the car's tendency to over-steer (this i want!).
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My front sway is still disconnected, I wonder if these would make the steering less twitchy without screwing with the car's tendency to over-steer (this i want!).
You'd def. put them through their paces. I dont know about twitchy. They take away all the slop in the front end and make the car feel a little more direct.
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You'd def. put them through their paces. I dont know about twitchy. They take away all the slop in the front end and make the car feel a little more direct.
at speed, the slop is the source of the twitchy-ness. i'm pretty sure my stock control arm bushings are taking a royal ass kicking from having no front sway bar to stabilize the body roll.

maybe i'll get these when my stock bushings crap out. if i still have the car that is hah.
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Spike, they would definitely increase the front grip and take away twitchiness. Would they take away oversteer? Maybe a little, but the sacrifice for further front grip might be worth it. And you can always take out rear slop and stiffen up the rear with sets of RLR rear control arm bushings and rear knuckle bushings


Thank you very much for the review TUKO! I'm glad you like them. Let me know how it all feels once you've got those other mods installed
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Old 02-12-2013, 12:36 AM
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I def will. Tell me more about the rears.
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How much would it cost, roughly, with buying new lca's and sending them to red to get done?
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I def will. Tell me more about the rears.
What do you want to know?

$100 for the rear set, completes all four arms in the rear, will probably help more with cars that like to corner than straight liners, but they might help keep squat down since the bushings won't have any squish.

Also making knuckle bushings, $60.
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