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Old 03-03-2009, 02:20 AM
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Today I took my 2007 Altima to get an oil change at the dealer. I asked them to change the transmission fluid. Long-story-short, they said the fluid in the trans was red and supposed to be green. I don't know how long it has been like this. This is the first time I've known of it. How bad is this? Is the transmission now ruined? How long will it last? Help!
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As far as i know, its sapposed to be a bright red...When its brown, thats when you need it changed.

i think you need to stay away from wherever you took it...
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Old 03-03-2009, 02:51 AM
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Your dealer sounds like it has a bunch of monkeys in the service department. Nissan CVT takes Nissan(Idemitsu iirc) ATF afaik which is in fact red, kinda like cough syrup. If it looks red it means it's still nice, clean and healthy. How many miles on the car? You should not need to worry about it until 30K or so, at which point I would do a flush personally.
Do NOT use anything other than OEM fluid. It WILL cause you problems. The CVT tranny is NOT cheap to fix. Stick with Nissan OEM.
They probably confused your ATF with your coolant or something. Go back, tell them they are idiots and find yourself another dealership. They would probably flush your tranny with whatever cheap ATF they will have, especially if the dealer is a joint dealership (if for example they sell Ford cars as well, they'll flush your tranny with Ford OEM crap. Fail)
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It has 30k miles as of last month. The place I took it to is also a Ford dealer. So green is bad then? This is a CVT transmission. The fluid costs a ton of money. Like 120 bucks in fluid alone. I'm going to take it back tomorrow and get it checked out.
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take it to nissan dealer, they'll scan it with consult and probably tell you it's as good as new.
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It has 30k miles as of last month. The place I took it to is also a Ford dealer. So green is bad then? This is a CVT transmission. The fluid costs a ton of money. Like 120 bucks in fluid alone. I'm going to take it back tomorrow and get it checked out.
Strange....the fluid in my 08 is clear.....I have some Nissan NS-2 replacement fluid coming to me in a day or two I will see what color that is....
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It has 30k miles as of last month. The place I took it to is also a Ford dealer. So green is bad then? This is a CVT transmission. The fluid costs a ton of money. Like 120 bucks in fluid alone. I'm going to take it back tomorrow and get it checked out.
Good sir, a failed,neglected CVT is several thousand dollars. $120 is chump change. Again, at no point will the fluid be green. If your fluid is clean, it should not need replacement.
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Update... I just called five different Nissan dealers. They all told me that the one and only part number for genuine Nissan CVT fluid comes out of their bottle as GREEN. I didn't tell them what color mine was I only asked, "What color is CVT fluid?" Maybe it came from the factory with red??? I also didn't mention that I had them replace it with the green. I will be calling Nissan consumer affairs as soon as possible. I am now rather confused.

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find another dealer if you're in a metroplex area. unless you're racing or pulling loads, you prolly don't need fluid changed yet. isn't the change interval 60k miles?
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If consumer affairs confirms it, then it means that the CVT unit uses green fluid which is of different spec than the ATF for the traditional geared unit. Most likely it is green so that dealers don't mix them up. If consumer affairs confirms it then it means everything I wrote so far is wrong and I learned a new thing.

If your fluid is red and it is in fact supposed to be green, then I wonder why you ended up with the wrong-spec ATF. Did you ever have it serviced since you bought it? It is also worth checking to see if Nissan didn't change the ATF coloration since the CVT Altima has come out. That's a possibility.

Maybe more CVT users should chime in on this with their color.

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Your dealer sounds like it has a bunch of monkeys in the service department. Nissan CVT takes Nissan(Idemitsu iirc) ATF afaik which is in fact red, kinda like cough syrup. If it looks red it means it's still nice, clean and healthy. How many miles on the car? You should not need to worry about it until 30K or so, at which point I would do a flush personally.
Do NOT use anything other than OEM fluid. It WILL cause you problems. The CVT tranny is NOT cheap to fix. Stick with Nissan OEM.
They probably confused your ATF with your coolant or something. Go back, tell them they are idiots and find yourself another dealership. They would probably flush your tranny with whatever cheap ATF they will have, especially if the dealer is a joint dealership (if for example they sell Ford cars as well, they'll flush your tranny with Ford OEM crap. Fail)
Fishbone, you really should try to know the facts before you post. The CVT fluid is NOT the same as regular ATF. If you read the owners manual, or the service manual, you will find that out. I haven't looked at mine, but there is a description in WikiAnswers that the fluid is "often dyed green for sale to the public". On the other hand, there are many posts that describe it as being tan, so maybe the green was for the early CVT in the Murano. (that was NS-1, Altima uses NS-2) There is a sticker under the hood that warns of using other ATFs, which can damage the transmission. Sounds like this service guy was at least a little confused.
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^See my reply above.
What I'm curious about is how opie ended up with cherry colored ATF if he supposedly never had it serviced. Also, the ATF formula can very well be different and still have the same color. Case in point how various OEM tranny manufacturers use various-spec ATF yet most if not all are still cough-syrup colored. I already knew the CVT tranny uses a different spec ATF but I was always under the impression it is of the same color
Since CVT can very well be killed in short order by the wrong-spec ATF I can definitely see why they would use a different dye.
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I've made many phone calls this morning and I am now sure that the CVT fluid is green. Please have an open mind about this. I would also encourage all who have this tranny to check your fluid and make sure you're running the right stuff.
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so marbleman, what color is yours then?
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With all the hype going on now I checked mine again and it is clear to a slight hint of tan color. My car has over 30k and I bought it new and never had the tranny serviced. My cars build date was 12/07.

Tonight i'm supposed to get a delivery of genuine Nissan cvt fluid to do a change. I will post later what color the fluid is..........
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