Originally Posted by dbc
I'm glad you mentioned the Motortrend test. Note that the Altima was 1.8 seconds faster than the Camry to 100 mph. That doesn't sound like much but it's over 13 car lengths ahead of the Camry at 100 mph. That's a big difference.
That's about the only stat clearly in favor of the Altima. Looks to me like you are cherry picking
The acceleration to 100mph is a result of more power and a lighter chassis in favor of the Altima. How do you explain the negligible difference in pretty much all the other aspects? That fact goes to show that the stat you picked cannot squarely be attributed to the transmission alone.
Note also that the Altima and Accord, both with CVT's, were consistently faster than the other 4 comparable cars equipped with step gear automatics.
The difference is minimal once again, and you can't lay the advantage squarely on the transmission since all the other cars, except the Malibu, have a worse power/weight ratio.
Documented tests, that you cite, show that the CVT equipped cars are faster. And Consumers Reports documents that the Altima is more fuel efficient.
Not by much. Camry came damn close.
In addition, when my wife and I were shopping for a crossover, the Forester which has a 4EAT gets pretty much the same MPG as the Rogue, which has a CVT. That's just embarrassing.
You keep saying that I'm drawing "the completely wrong conclusion." But the documented tests show that it is the correct conclusion.
What documented tests?
Motor Trend doesn't hold, nor does that Honda dyno test.
If the CVT had a clear and undisputed advantage, it would be ahead of the competition by a fair margin.
With respect, but you are refusing to look at the evidence with an objective eye. CVT does not reign supreme, as I said, it's yet another choice out there for drivers, and should come at no surprise to you as to why enthusiasts prefer gears and paddle shifters unless of course you've never autocrossed.
Why doesn't the 370z have a CVT? Infiniti G? How is a CVT better than gears on the twisties? You and I both know that as soon as you let off the gas, the revs drop below the optimal point where you'd need them to be if you're driving like a bat outta hell