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Ethanol Free Gas - Pure Gas

I just finished up burning through a tank of regular (87 octane) ethanol free gas and achieved nearly 15% better fuel mileage with the same driving habits. I know in some states it is illegal to use ethanol free in automobiles. Frustrating that 99% of fuel stations are ethanol based and pure gas is much more expensive and almost impossible to find.

Anyone else tried pure gas?

I am wondering if some manufacturer MPG claims are done with tanks of pure gas to help achieve higher numbers?
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Haven't tried pure gas in the Altima yet. I just found out there are three stations in town with ethanol free gas, I tried a fill up in my Jeep Liberty and the MPG went from an average of 16 city/highway, to almost 18 (17.8). I'll definitely be trying this in the Altima soon...
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I only use ethanol free gasoline. I am sure it will be removed sometime in the future. First they removed Ethyl, then they removed lead and this will be the next step. We'll be running on water at some point, like in steam.
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The 1 E0 gas station where I am always has prices that are at least 20 cents more than other stations. In addition to the price, it's a non-name brand gas station, and I"m not sure gas from those.
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Pure gasoline in my area is usually 6 cents to 12 cents per gallon higher. We have a large gasoline terminal east of Oklahoma City where a lot of the fuel from this area comes from. You see all different brands of tankers fueling there. It is possible that there are different additives added into the different brands of fuel, but the base gasoline is all coming from the same source as far as I can see.
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I can get it here locally in Wisconsin at $0.20/gal more. I always figure any mpg increase is offset by the cost of the gas. I use the non-ethanol gas in my lawn mowers, snowblower, scooter and motorcycle, though.
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I have tried them both

much better fuel millage with non- ethanol fuel,I have heard it burns much hotter and to not use it in aircooled motors don't know for a fact.

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I used pure gasoline in my BMW R1150RT and there were no ill effects. I fueled my Frontier to day and the pure gasoline was $3.179 per gallon. Across the street 7-11 had their ethanol for $3.199 per gallon. I have never seen the pure gasoline cheaper than ethanol before. It made my day. Itrhanked the attendant and left.
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I just finished up burning through a tank of regular (87 octane) ethanol free gas and achieved nearly 15% better fuel mileage with the same driving habits. I know in some states it is illegal to use ethanol free in automobiles. Frustrating that 99% of fuel stations are ethanol based and pure gas is much more expensive and almost impossible to find.

Anyone else tried pure gas?

I am wondering if some manufacturer MPG claims are done with tanks of pure gas to help achieve higher numbers?
Yes i am sure they use ethanol free gas for there MPG claims
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much better fuel millage with non- ethanol fuel,I have heard it burns much hotter and to not use it in aircooled motors don't know for a fact.
Now that is funny. They didn't have wide spread ethanol blends until the government mandated it as a boost for the farmers. Things have been running on pure gas for decades air cooled and water cooled with no ill effects. If you google Ethanol blends you will see that yes it does run cooler but it causes many other problems in a cars fuel system. That is why cars have to be certified to run on it. All new cars will run on *10 but not all will run on the E85.

I hate the stuff because it gives stations an excuse to jack the price on the pure gas. I buy it most of the time when it is convenient. My problem is I travel all over and it is hard to find the stations when I need gas with them being not way out of the way.


This is a resource but it has not always been accurate in my experience.---

Ethanol-free gas stations in the U.S. and Canada
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The list for Bethany is wrong. The following station is closed right now. Anyone who plans to travel this way might make a note of it.

Bethany SHELL 87 89 Shop & Go Foods 3640 N Rockwell
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I think it is a user edit type site you might be able to correct it. I don't know for sure though.
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I use this database/website for getting gas for my boat. If you run a boat you'll be happy with the performance of pure gas, and it won't eat up rubber parts over the winter.
I've also put it in the altima and it runs better. If any of the stations are closed on that database, be a good sport and email the site and let them know.

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Same one I posted Has it been accurate in your area?
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I just finished up burning through a tank of regular (87 octane) ethanol free gas and achieved nearly 15% better fuel mileage with the same driving habits. I know in some states it is illegal to use ethanol free in automobiles. Frustrating that 99% of fuel stations are ethanol based and pure gas is much more expensive and almost impossible to find.

Anyone else tried pure gas?

I am wondering if some manufacturer MPG claims are done with tanks of pure gas to help achieve higher numbers?


From the Frequently Asked Questions website:

Do EPA fuel economy estimates account for the use of ethanol blends that are common today?

No. The EPA fuel economy tests use 100 percent gasoline, and no adjustments are made to account for ethanol. Most conventional vehicles using E10 (10 percent ethanol) will experience a 3 to 4 percent reduction in fuel economy.

Why don't EPA fuel economy tests use ethanol-blended gasoline now that most gasoline contains ethanol?

EPA fuel economy tests are conducted according to Federal testing regulations which require 100 percent gasoline. These regulations could be changed, but changing them would be somewhat problematic. While it is common for gasoline pumps to allow for up to 10 percent ethanol, the actual amount of ethanol blended into the gasoline varies greatly, and fuel blending requirements vary by state. Changing the test methods would also make it difficult to compare vehicles tested with ethanol blends with those tested with straight gasoline. So, without a national standard for blended regular gasoline and a Federal mandate to change the test fuel used, the EPA will not change the test fuel.
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