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Old 04-09-2002, 10:30 PM
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such a pointless argument!! Just buy the damn rotors. They look good and last longer than stock. You got nothing to lose!

crossdrilled/slotted rotors don't allow for better heat dissipation!!!
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I would like to know why several major brands equip their high performance vehicles with drilled rotors? Does the Porsche GT2 come with them for the "bling bling" factor?
Not sure exactly, but I know Porsche x-drilled rotors crack just as easily as other x-drilled rotors.
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Old 04-09-2002, 10:32 PM
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They look good and last longer than stock.
Explain this phenomenon. Oh and use some facts BESIDES "Well this one time I had a set and they . . . "
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You got nothing to lose!
Except your life if that bling bling x-drilled rotor ever decides to crack and separate at a bad time.
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Old 04-09-2002, 10:36 PM
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Not sure exactly, but I know Porsche x-drilled rotors crack just as easily as other x-drilled rotors.

Cool, then I pass the question on to Cobra.
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Does the Porsche GT2 come with them for the "bling bling" factor?

I have seen pics of cracked to hell porsche rotors..?? next..

what Cobra has said is dead on..read it, then read it again, then as he said research it.
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Old 04-09-2002, 10:37 PM
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I don't respect the way you attacked Alex at all, but I am always game to learn more.

So, you may not have my respect, but you certainly have my attention.
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Old 04-09-2002, 10:38 PM
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Does the Porsche GT2 come with them for the "bling bling" factor?

I have seen pics of cracked to hell porsche rotors..?? next..

what Cobra has said is dead on..read it, then read it again, then as he said research it.

I'm not attcking you at all. I am only asking a question.

I question why a $160,000 full on sports car comes with brakes that ya'll seem to deem as unsafe and sub-par.
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it was only an "attack" after he refused to admit he was wrong..
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I am not sure I know the answer to the Porsche question either. My guess however is that it lies somewhere in the metalurgy of the materials they use. Perhaps they are heat treated or cryo-treated or utilize a different casting process to manufacturer them. As SlowSER has said however - they are still prone to failures as with any other x-drilled application. Why Porsche has decided to use them is beyond me. Ferrari has used them in the past as well.

In any event I can tell you that the pieces installed on the GT2 are significantly different than the stock blanks that are drilled, re-badged and sold to kids as "performance" items.
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Old 04-09-2002, 10:41 PM
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But the shit talking was a little overboard.

Alex is a very nice person, who does all he can for people on this board, and many other boards. So you disagree about brakes, doesn't mean you need to call him everything but his name.

I think your tactics are off. I'd be more than happy to listen to your comments about brakes, and cars in general, but I disagree with your attitude towards others.
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any questions??....pretty gutsy for your first post there chief......I LIKE IT!!

word of advice....try to tone down your rhetoric. you may know your shit but it makes you sound like a prick when you try to express it. oh wait, you've probably never been wrong before, right? come on man...you sound like a smart fellow. There are tactful ways of doing this. But in the end, it's your choice.

....and blood on his hands??? please, let's try not to be too dramatic, shall we? because after all, it's the driver who is ultimately responsible for what he/she puts in their car and the way they drive it. That's like blaming cigarette manufacturers for people making a conscious decision to smoke or suing gun makers because some people want to use a lawful product to kill.

A member once gave me some advice for a similar outburst and I think you'd benefit from heeding it as well......"Have a drink " - thanks Peterson

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Old 04-09-2002, 10:42 PM
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I am not sure I know the answer to the Porsche question either. My guess however is that it lies somewhere in the metalurgy of the materials they use. Perhaps they are heat treated or cryo-treated or utilize a different casting process to manufacturer them. As SlowSER has said however - they are still prone to failures as with any other x-drilled application. Why Porsche has decided to use them is beyond me. Ferrari has used them in the past as well.

In any event I can tell you that the pieces installed on the GT2 are significantly different than the stock blanks that are drilled, re-badged and sold to kids as "performance" items.

OK, so does your attack on drilled rotors only stand true for low end drilled rotrs? Are high end drilled rotors up to your specs?

I do understand that the $60 per rotor isn't even in the same field as any high end equipment, but are they alltogether different entirely?
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Old 04-09-2002, 10:43 PM
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The Porsche x-drilled rotors aren't drilled at all, they're cast with the holes.
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Old 04-09-2002, 10:44 PM
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The Porsche x-drilled rotors aren't drilled at all, they're cast with the holes.

So, you still loose the mass and area as stated above. I'm not arguing about the method of how the holes were placed.
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Old 04-09-2002, 10:46 PM
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My attitude?

I apoligize for being a bit "uppity" but all too often I see resident "experts" spouting off pseudo-facts. Some result in the waste of money while others have extremely serious rammifications. Brakes are one of those areas. I lost all respect for that guy the moment he began arguing his side and refused to see the possibility that he was wrong. When people listen to you it behooves you to be right because people are going to take your words as blind faith - whether they should or not.

As a lifelong SCCA member I grew up around racing. Do you have any idea how many incidents I have seen due to brake failures of some kind? In ALL but a few of those cases the end result was a minimum of bent sheet metal and the most severe resulted in serious injuries and death. Sure not all were related to x-drilled rotors but enough were. There is a reason why people don't use them in racing enviornments - this vendor IS NOT on to something new.
 

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