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Old 01-06-2007, 09:20 AM
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Exclamation New Upgrade guide

Version 1.1
Let us start with the basics. After Hours and Hours of research, I have come with up with an Upgrade guide. It should help us all! (the other one was old, and didn’t help to much)
UPDATE: *added camshaft guide**added tune up guide and A/F tuning*

TUNEUP

The most basic, and one of the most important modifications that can be done to an Altima is the basic tune up. Its relatively inexpensive, and can Improve fuel economy, run smoother and cleaner, regain loss power, and in some cases, actual gain hp. Basics to look for would be, a routine oil change with filter and synthetic fluids, Distributor Cap and Rotor, new spark plug wires, fuel filter, new spark plugs with proper gap (you can gap up to .047in.though fuel economy might suffer a bit) Most of these parts can last a while, and have a fairly even spaced out service interval. Make sure you car is in tune to get the best of it.

Highs:
Keeps the car in running order
Improve fuel economy
Regain loss power
Inexpensive

Lows:
Some parts can be a little more costly depending on brand

Best Choice:
Mobile 1/ Royal Purple 5w-30 oil, NGK copper Plugs and wires.

CAI/WAI

From my personal Experience, and from several other recorded documents, CAI outperforms WAI. From low end, to top, and mid range too, CAI makes more power, and thickens up the power band. Though, through my experience, the WAI’s warmer intake temps actually improve Gas mileage over cooler temps of the CAI. Also, the WAI has slightly better throttle response. Also, with WAI, worrying about Hydro lock is not an Issue. WAI also cost a bit less than CAI (depending on the make), and CAI choices are limited. With a bypass valve, you can eliminate the risk of hydro lock on a CAI.

Highs:
Improved Throttle Response (wai)
Better Fuel economy (wai)
Lower end Torque/ Broader power band (cai)
Inexpensive (Wai)
Sound (cai, Lesser extent wai)

Lows:
Chance of Hydro lock (Cai)
Peaky power band (wai)
Cost (cai)

Best choices:
JWT (Wai)
Hotshot (Cai)

Example of CAI making more power than WAI
http://www.ka24development.com/file_...dyno_injen.jpg
http://www.se-r.net/about/200sx/scc/april98/april3.jpg


HEADER

The Header is most likely one of the Best Mods for the Altima. For bang for buck, look not further, because this is the mod wakes the Motor up. Altima drivers have two choices as far as Headers go. 4-2-1, and 4-1. 4-2-1 (street) is considered optimal for a nice low to mid range power; while 4-1 (race) is thought better for Top end power. Many members who have had both haven't felt, or seen, any difference in power between the two. Though part throttle power may be different.

Highs:
Great bang for buck (both)
Great power gain (both)
-High RPM (4-1)
-Low to mid RPM (4-2-1)

Lows:
Reduces refinement (more vibration)
More noise


Best Choices:
Hotshot (4-2-1)
Stillen (4-1)

EXHAUST

A hotly debated subject on the Altima Boards. It comes down to this, the bigger you go, the more power you can make. 3ich Cat backs have been shown to make Power at the upper Rpm range, and lose no low-end power, BUT they can reduce throttle response, and don’t make as much low/mid range power as smaller piping. Meaning, at part throttle daily Driving, you’ll feel like you lost a lot of power. Altima drivers have long used 2.25, but even that may be too small for optimal breathing. 2.5 seem like the Best compromise between 3.0 and 2.25. It offers superior low-end power, and excellent top end. Though, because of the bigger size, 2.5 might be louder than 2.25. In the end it comes down to preference. If you want maximum power, go 3inch, if you want to keep things quiet, go 2.25. If you want the best of both worlds, go 2.5. Of course, all piping should be mandrel bent for the best flow.

Highs:
Good power increase (all)
Large top end gains (3.0)
Good sound (all…varies)
Part throttle power (2.25 mostly. 2.5)

Lows:
Cost
Noise level (2.5 – 3.0 Mostly depends on setup)
Most Exhaust made for Altima only offer smaller size piping

Best Choices:
OBX (2.25)
Greddy (2.35)
VRS (2.5/3.0)
Custom (x.xx)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...ynoCompare.jpg
http://www.worldwidechang.com/Pics/C...keExhaust1.jpg

TB SPACER

A relatively new mod for Altima, the Idea Stemmed from a Current member (Ecco), and has been dyno tested to show merit. The TB spacer mod is actually two mods in one. The spacer, and the coolant line Bypass. The spacer actually adds a good amount of power for a low price. A good amount of low end power gained, is available right off idle, and carries some of the gains close to redline. Judging from the Dyno graph, some Top end Power might be lost due to running slightly richer, but for the power gained under the curve its worth it. The coolant bypass keeps the intake temperature cooler, and thus, you can gain back some lost power due to heat. Users have also reported better fuel economy.

Highs:
More low-end power
Better Fuel economy
Low to moderate cost
Good For FI use?

Lows:
Richer mixture can reduce top end power
Not as much power in higher RPM
Must reposition intake
Good for FI use?

Best Choices:
Altimas.net member Ecco
Ace Precision

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a2...ynosheet-1.gif
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a2...ynosheet-2.gif


UNDERDRIVE PULLEY

Without getting into the subject of weather or not the KA is internally balanced or not, or if under driving damages other parts, many members (including myself) have run these pulleys, and have had no issues. Under drive pulleys don’t actually make power, instead, the “free up” lost drive train power. Automatic Altima seem to experience the biggest gain from the Pulley, compared to manual cars, which the difference isn’t as noticeable. The gains spread through the rpm band, both low through high. Most of the power “gains” comes from saved weight instead of actual under driving. Regardless, most don’t notice any change in accessory performance due to the pulley change.

Highs:
Gain throughout the power band
Can be inexpensive (check ebay)
Nice gains on automatics

Lows:
Scary history
No full pulley set
No big gains on manual cars
‘Off’ timing marks on (some) pulleys

Best Choices:
Unorthodox Racing
SWA


ECU/COMPUTER

At this time, there are not that many options on ECU upgrades on Altimas. Altimas.net member steeliz promises a tune soon, but as of right now, Altima Drivers have two choices. Standalone (and piggyback) or JWT’s ECU. JWT’s ecu adds these enchantments over the stock ecu
· Fuel and spark maps for optimal performance while maintaining OBD-II compatibility
· Removes the MPH top-speed-limit fuel cut function
· Raises the stock rev limit (7000rpm)
· Significantly improves transient throttle response (no tip-in retard)
· Leans out the A/F ratio at WOT for optimal performance
· Compensates for larger fuel injectors across the entire operating range
Gains on the ECU are said to be about a much as the header through the RPM range, though peak numbers are not as high. Also, the ECU’s cost means this should be a mod done later on. Fuel Economy can improve, though Premium fuel is required. So far, without going standalone, nothing offers what JWT does.

Highs:
More power all around, and good gains
Better fuel economy
Bigger power band
Re-programmable

Lows:
Cost
Premium fuel required

Best Choices:
JWT ECU

Sentra.net - Kojima's Garage - Engine Modifications
SCC Project Nissan 200SX 1.6 - February 2001

CAMSHAFTS

It’s no Secret that the Altima has generous low-end power, but dies at top end. Even after all the bolt ons, which perform more like a band-aid to problem, the upper RPM range remains weak. Because of the Set up of the motor, the Altima isn’t as flexible with cam swaps as the 240sx. Choosing the right cams is important, because cams as a whole have a big impact on your power curve. If you plan on using Factory camshafts as an upgrade, the best combo would be 248intake and a 232 Exhaust cam, though it would be harder to obtain in an Altima. Also Altimas can only use another Altima cam as the Exhaust cam! While cheaper, factory Cam Swapping can be a big hassle, and doesn’t really give the gains Aftermarket cams will.

As far as Aftermarket Cams go, if you are N/A, your best bet, auto or manual, is to look at JWT camshafts. PDM’s are said to make more peak power, but lose more down low, and Crowers camshafts aren’t as Aggressive as JWT’s until you get to Stage 3. Also, Crower cams are cheaper, offering a nice bang for buck

Cams are a difficult subject because there is no right or wrong answer. If you want max power, low-end power, or a nice broad power band, there is a cam set up for you.

Highs:
More Power at top end (all)
Low price (factory cams)
Proven 8+whp gain (PDM, JWT)
Better overall Power band


Lows:
Difficult install for those less Experienced (all)
Slight low-end loss
Cost (PDM, JWT)

Best Choice:
JWT, Crower

my comments on 248/240 s13 cam swap: Nissan Infiniti Forums - NICOclub
KA24DE Cams Specifications: Nissan Infiniti Forums - NICOclub
http://www.nissanclub.com/forums/eng...highlight=cams
http://www.ka24development.com/file_...x_dyno_JWT.jpg


A/F CONTROLLER

One of the character traits on the Altimas (and this is true of other Nissans, down to the 350Z) is that on higher RPM’s, the ECU dumps massive amounts of Fuel into the car, making it run rich up top, and killing power overall. A relatively cheap way of fixing this would be to get an A/F controller. An A/F controller does exactly what its name says, by controlling (or tricking the ECU) to richen, or lean out an A/F ratio. For F/I cars, running slightly rich would be ideal, and for N/A you’ll want a slightly leaner mixture. For the Altima in particular, you will want one with a knock Sensor Reading. The Downside to A/F controllers is you’ll also need a wideband to tune, or a Dyno. And for the cost of the unit and a Tune can rise in cost. Also, if tuned incorrectly, you run the risk of severe damage to your motor. Because of the nature of this mod, it is recommended that it is done last.

Highs:
Nice gains on a Tuned unit
Relatively inexpensive to buy

Lows:
If unfamiliar, it requires professional tune (recommended anyhow)
If tuned incorrectly, can cause serious motor damage
Should not be used with Aftermarket ECUs (JWT)

Best Choice:
SAFC/II
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NEW UPGRADE GUIDE. CHECK BEFORE YOU ASK QUESTIONS:
http://www.nissanclub.com/forums/eng...ml#post3100261

Unofficial Dyno thread
http://www.nissanclub.com/forums/gen...898-prove.html

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Old 01-06-2007, 09:22 AM
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I'm going to bed. I have church In the morning. Can someone get Redlion to do the same for the Suspension and Brake Setup? Asleep for MSD/Nitrous? Message me, or post your changes and questions here.

night guys.

I'll add somemore (cams, timing, etc.) tomorrow.
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Iceman, I vote for this to be a sticky! good work mi amigo!
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Old 01-06-2007, 10:45 AM
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Ditto. Kewl thread man.
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Old 01-06-2007, 04:31 PM
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That was a great write up Iceman, I'm definetly going to get the underdrive pulley and maybe the tb spacer. Are you going to do a write up on the JWT Cams?
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Old 01-06-2007, 04:39 PM
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Nice to-the point write up. Well done !
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Old 01-06-2007, 05:54 PM
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May I add that for OBDI Altimas (93, 94, and some 95s) there is always the option of installing a daughterboard and tuning it yourself. All you need is a daughterboard, some eproms, a burner, a computer and access to a wideband o2 sensor.
There is also the option of Bikirom, which is similar to the above, yet already configured and has some different features.
Either way, you'll wind up with total control of the fuel/timing maps in your car, and should be able to create a good tune for either NA or FI.

Pros:
Fuel/Timing Control
Infinite retunes
Do It Yourself
Can do anything a JWT ecu can do

Cons:
Not just plug and play
Do It Yourself
Requires some time to get it right...

Resources:
:: Index
www.bikirom.com
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Old 01-07-2007, 01:28 AM
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May I add that for OBDI Altimas (93, 94, and some 95s) there is always the option of installing a daughterboard and tuning it yourself. All you need is a daughterboard, some eproms, a burner, a computer and access to a wideband o2 sensor.
There is also the option of Bikirom, which is similar to the above, yet already configured and has some different features.
Either way, you'll wind up with total control of the fuel/timing maps in your car, and should be able to create a good tune for either NA or FI.

Pros:
Fuel/Timing Control
Infinite retunes
Do It Yourself
Can do anything a JWT ecu can do

Cons:
Not just plug and play
Do It Yourself
Requires some time to get it right...

Resources:
:: Index
www.bikirom.com
hmm..I'll have to check this out. Remeber though, this is a basic guide.
I still have to knock off Ignition, Supesnsion and brakes. I did all the bolt ons and bits.
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Dont forget the basics , Colder heat range plugs ( BKR6E-11 or BKR7E-11 ) , bumping up the plug gap from stock .044in. to .047in. ....... Bumping up the ignition timing to 22-23 deg. and running premium fuel will gain also ...basic tune up parts ( cap, Rotor, Fuel filter etc. ..) 5w-30 engine oil, 75w-90 gear oil will help free up some HP ....


Light flywheel and basic ACT SS clutch will help alot !!

Making sure your Battery Power and Ground wires are very clean and tight ... Dont really need a super crazzy grounding system , but a nice big extra ground from the battery to the intake manifold where the ECU grounds are can help !!

FYI on my car I always noticed more over all top end power with the POP WAI , But I also had a heat diverter ...Had 3 different CAI setups on mine and always lost big over 5000 RPM !!

Also I have to stress weight ... those 2 big 15" subs in the back are gona rob all the power the new I/H/E makes !!

Light weight wheels is a Must !!.... The 16" Enkies I ran weighed the same as the stock aloys .... so I didnt loose any power by upgrading the wheels ....
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don't forget the air to fuel controller, and my favorite mod that every altima should have, a 65mm THROTTLE BODY
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Great write-up. I wonder who is going to write information on the forced induction side of the house once the basic bolt-ons has been covered.

It is nice to start seeing a comeback to write-ups which either aged or were badly needed. Thanks, Bro.
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Old 01-07-2007, 05:31 AM
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Quote:
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Dont forget the basics , Colder heat range plugs ( BKR6E-11 or BKR7E-11 ) , bumping up the plug gap from stock .044in. to .047in. ....... Bumping up the ignition timing to 22-23 deg. and running premium fuel will gain also ...basic tune up parts ( cap, Rotor, Fuel filter etc. ..) 5w-30 engine oil, 75w-90 gear oil will help free up some HP ....


Light flywheel and basic ACT SS clutch will help alot !!

Making sure your Battery Power and Ground wires are very clean and tight ... Dont really need a super crazzy grounding system , but a nice big extra ground from the battery to the intake manifold where the ECU grounds are can help !!

FYI on my car I always noticed more over all top end power with the POP WAI , But I also had a heat diverter ...Had 3 different CAI setups on mine and always lost big over 5000 RPM !!

Also I have to stress weight ... those 2 big 15" subs in the back are gona rob all the power the new I/H/E makes !!

Light weight wheels is a Must !!.... The 16" Enkies I ran weighed the same as the stock aloys .... so I didnt loose any power by upgrading the wheels ....

Ahhh man..You just had to throw all that into the Fire. I'm on it.

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don't forget the air to fuel controller, and my favorite mod that every altima should have, a 65mm THROTTLE BODY
Yeah yeah...I forgot..sue me

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Great write-up. I wonder who is going to write information on the forced induction side of the house once the basic bolt-ons has been covered.

It is nice to start seeing a comeback to write-ups which either aged or were badly needed. Thanks, Bro.
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Iceman, I vote for this to be a sticky! good work mi amigo!
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Old 01-07-2007, 06:15 AM
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Great update for a newb to the 4cyl world such as myself.
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