SerIf your ious about building an engine you would ask people who have cams. Look online and see the gains recorded from cam instalss. If you were dead serious you'd get spec cards and take them to an engine builder. Then again most people on this forum are all talk and hype.
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Tuko316, that vortec cyclone that you mentioned,ordered 2 and works great. I got great gains Thanks. Oh and your car is sharp dude.
lol your lucky im in a good mood (you can thank my girl lol).
ill say this: all three are very reputable companies. jwt has always been a popular choice for nissans. most maxima/altima guys still use JWT. lately a lot of 350z guys have been leaning toward brian crower.
what ever you can get a good deal on i would opt for. get ready for ~$1500 install price.
SerIf your ious about building an engine you would ask people who have cams. Look online and see the gains recorded from cam instalss. If you were dead serious you'd get spec cards and take them to an engine builder. Then again most people on this forum are all talk and hype.
well ive seen nismo and jwt cams dyno about 15whp. havent heard much about brian cower but iam guessing they be the same. just wanted to know what other ppl had and how they liked them.
you dont need to go to a engine builder if you know what you want to do. i know what i want to do i just need to see what cams ppl have used and there experiences with them.
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Lol your right you don't need to go to a engine builder. But then again that's why people don't have 300+whp. Some people think they know everything.
i dont know everything, but i know mostly want i want to do in the future with the motor. port an polish the intake and exhaust manifolds, forged internals, cams with springs new valves and such, maybe even upgrade the fuel pump and injectors (dont really need it though). ecu work stuff like that. there really isnt much more you can do unless i went FI or NOS which i dont really wanna do.
your headed down the right path but you need more direction. what goals do you have as far as power? just buying parts and throwing it in the car doesnt net you the best power. researching the best part and making sure they all work together is more important than just buying expensive stuff.
why buy forged internals if you arent going to run NOS and/or FI? most of the power you will gain is in the heads. which cams are the best? which cams work better than others? what type of cams do you want 264, 268, 272, 280's? do you need to upgrade springs with the cams you get? if not why spend the extra money? why buy valves is the stock valves are stronger than aftermarket valves? stock fuel pump is more than enough for an all motor build. its enough even for a 100 shot of nos so why waste money? same with injectors.
just research. why spend 15 grand on a motor that puts out 290whp when you can spend 10 grand on a motor that puts out 310whp? its your money homie do what you want.
well ive seen nismo and jwt cams dyno about 15whp.
you dont need to go to a engine builder if you know what you want to do. i know what i want to do i just need to see what cams ppl have used and there experiences with them.
that's peak HP , don't really pay attention to peak HP , pay attention to the whole power curve which is way more important .
research and more research !
think of a goal you want your motor to achieve then work from there .
if you are going to drive your car everyday don't go to radical on the cam's , get something more streetable .
you will need a tune after the cam install , you should think about UTEC .
if you were to install HR heads (which i wouldn't do) you would be silly not to put better cams in those heads before they get installed on your block .
your headed down the right path but you need more direction. what goals do you have as far as power? just buying parts and throwing it in the car doesnt net you the best power. researching the best part and making sure they all work together is more important than just buying expensive stuff.
why buy forged internals if you arent going to run NOS and/or FI? most of the power you will gain is in the heads. which cams are the best? which cams work better than others? what type of cams do you want 264, 268, 272, 280's? do you need to upgrade springs with the cams you get? if not why spend the extra money? why buy valves is the stock valves are stronger than aftermarket valves? stock fuel pump is more than enough for an all motor build. its enough even for a 100 shot of nos so why waste money? same with injectors.
just research. why spend 15 grand on a motor that puts out 290whp when you can spend 10 grand on a motor that puts out 310whp? its your money homie do what you want.
my goal is pretty much the same as everyone else i would hope, to get as much power out of the power as possible. with forged internals they are lighter and spin faster for the higer revs the motor will be doing,because 6600 dont cut it for me lol. as far as the cams i want the ones that will give me the most hp up top because thats where your gonna need it, which one would that be for our motors 272?. normally its better to get the springs done with the cams because they would keep the valves at the right height for aftermarket cams when you rev higher, i know the fuel pump wont do nothing for my performance but still like to do it. but thats deff not a concern that would be like the last thing id ever do.
but if iam spending 15k on a motor believe me its gonna have more than 290 whp. all this looking around got me thinking about a storker kit. 5k aint bad for forged internals and getting a 4.1L out of the motor. you just got to do some work to make sure everything lines up with the head. but how is the drive ability with that you know?
my goal is pretty much the same as everyone else i would hope, to get as much power out of the power as possible. with forged internals they are lighter and spin faster for the higer revs the motor will be doing,because 6600 dont cut it for me lol. as far as the cams i want the ones that will give me the most hp up top because thats where your gonna need it, which one would that be for our motors 272?. normally its better to get the springs done with the cams because they would keep the valves at the right height for aftermarket cams when you rev higher, i know the fuel pump wont do nothing for my performance but still like to do it. but thats deff not a concern that would be like the last thing id ever do.
but if iam spending 15k on a motor believe me its gonna have more than 290 whp. all this looking around got me thinking about a storker kit. 5k aint bad for forged internals and getting a 4.1L out of the motor. you just got to do some work to make sure everything lines up with the head. but how is the drive ability with that you know?
its not how much you spend , its what and where you spend that money that counts !!!
find a good machinist/engine builder and work out all the details before you buy anything , come up with a game plan then do it . start a thread and post all details of your build . good luck .
Last edited by jimnolimit : 06-24-2009 at 05:57 AM.
that's peak HP , don't really pay attention to peak HP , pay attention to the whole power curve which is way more important .
research and more research !
think of a goal you want your motor to achieve then work from there .
if you are going to drive your car everyday don't go to radical on the cam's , get something more streetable .
you will need a tune after the cam install , you should think about UTEC .
if you were to install HR heads (which i wouldn't do) you would be silly not to put better cams in those heads before they get installed on your block .
once i do all this work i will have another car but i would like to make it drive ably everyday if need be. what in your opinion is the best streetable cams?
but yup i know iam going to need a tune once those cams are in thats why i havent tuned the car yet cause iam just gonna wait till i get them. so the UTEC for 350Z for sure works on our car? thats mostly likely what i will look into unless something else comes out down the road
once i do all this work i will have another car but i would like to make it drive ably everyday if need be. what in your opinion is the best streetable cams?
but yup i know iam going to need a tune once those cams are in thats why i havent tuned the car yet cause iam just gonna wait till i get them. so the UTEC for 350Z for sure works on our car? thats mostly likely what i will look into unless something else comes out down the road
do lots of research .
the actual specs of your motor should be decided by you and your engine builder !
usually , the higher the duration the choppier the idle , with any cam upgrade you will most likely have to up your idle by 100-300 rpm . if you want to have a redline over 7000-7100 you will need better valve springs . remember there is more to cams than duration and lift . there are alot more companies that make cams for the VQ35 , also check out Tomei , JWT , Cosworth , HKS , Kelford , etc , if you are going to build it right , build it with the right parts and sometimes they cost a little more .
p.s. wanting to spend all this money , why do you prefer NA and not just go turbo ?
Last edited by jimnolimit : 06-24-2009 at 06:50 AM.
this is all rule of thumb , the actual specs of your motor should be decided by you and your engine builder !
usually , the higher the duration the choppier the idle , with any cam upgrade you will most likely have to up your idle by 100-300 rpm .
stock duration is 240 w/ about 9.5mm lift
nismo r-tune cams are 262 w/about 10.8mm lift
brian crower stage 2 cam is 264 w/ 10.8mm lift
the nismo is a mild street cam with an decent idle , you'll probably want to bump the idle up 100-200 rpm and your car will idle close to stock . the brian crower stage 2 adds just a touch more duration but nothing radical . both the nismo and brian crower stage 2 cams can be used with stock valve springs , but if you want to have a redline over 7000-7100 you will need better valve springs . this is just a little bit about these cams , there is more to cams than duration and lift . there are alot more companies that make cams for the VQ35 .
p.s. wanting to spend all this money , why do you prefer NA and not just go turbo ?
what about the jwt cams? what is the best cams to get 272? ive only seen 1 other company that the ones listed on this thread. idk i feel that our cars already suck at putting the power to ground with the chasis and such that giving it all that power you wont be able to put the power down as well as in a rwd.
thats why iam gonna get a g37 coupe and TT that one lol.
what about the jwt cams? what is the best cams to get 272? ive only seen 1 other company that the ones listed on this thread. idk i feel that our cars already suck at putting the power to ground with the chasis and such that giving it all that power you wont be able to put the power down as well as in a rwd.
thats why iam gonna get a g37 coupe and TT that one lol.
don't forget to check the all motor section of the org. the all motor guys over there really have their shit together when it comes to the fwd vq platform
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