z32 brake upgrade

[ryan987]

hey guys my names Ryan and i own a 1991 240sx i am starting my brake upgrade. i am going with the 91 300zxtt set up. i already ordered the calipers and rotors/pads. i also already own a pair of oem s14 5lug rims 17". i was told that the front spindle needs to be swapped to a s14 front spindle(5 lug) to make this work with the z32 calipers. i was also told that i can use the s14 rear hubs and calipers to finish the 5 lug swap/brake upgrade. can anyone please help me out all searches have come up with nothing. thank you.

[ryan987]

someone please help me out i really would like some advice or someone that knows what they are doing.

[Red Lion]

probably. 99% positive. search around 240sxforums.com or Fresh Alloy, but I'm 99% sure the "cheap" 5-lug swap (aka not those ridiculously priced Peak Performance hubs) comes from the S14's. I don't see why they wouldn't work! The only real difference between S13's and S14's is the bodies; most of the suspension is identical.

[ryan987]

thank you. i have been reading about this car for a few years since i started liking cars and having some money to work with. everything that i read is pretty vague on what body it is being performed on. i was just checking for a second opinion before i order the front spindle assembly with hubs for a s14. also does anyone know when changing bushings if there are any problems (making the job harder?) or do bushing remove and reinstall pretty easy?

[Red Lion]

which bushings?

[ryan987]

i am honestly not sure. i think there is one on the tie rod and maybe two others i don't know just wondering and getting info before it is taken apart and i am left without a car due to a day project gone bad

[Red Lion]

well, the tension rods have bushings, and I'm guessing the control arms do to.

When it comes to bushings, you have three ways to get them out:
1. press them out (a machine shop can do this for you if you don't have the tools)
2. drill them out (messy)
3. burn them out (messy, smelly and takes a long time)

Installing new ones though, is easier as they tend to just "slide right in".


OR if you decided to get aftermarket tension rods, control arms, etc. you probably won't have to worry about all that as they'll have bushings already in them

[ryan987]

thank you very much red. as i said earlier i am swapping the front spindles. i am planning on buying a complete bushing kit before i do the swap si i will be using the original parts so i will have to remove the old ones. you mentioned that i can bring to a machine shop but what tools do you know of that they would use to remove the bushings as i have quite a large selection of tols at home.

[Red Lion]

that I don't know. At least, I don't know what the names are called. I know they use a press of some kind. It has to be fairly heavy duty as the bushings are in there very tight. Maybe something you use on a bench. Sorry I can't help any more than that.

Hey, when you say you're using S14 spindles are you talking just the 5-lug hub itself or the entire suspension piece (that has the hubs, the brakes, etc). If the entire suspension piece can be swapped that would probably be easiest, assuming they're the exact same minus one being 4-lug and the other 5-lug. At least, it'd be easier on the rear most of all since the rears will need new wheel bearings.

[allnightsleeper]

The Definitive 300ZX Brake Swap!

google pwns all 240sx questions...be sure that any/every question has been asked before, you just need to find the answer.


gl with the swap.

[ryan987]

yes i am planning on swapping the whole front spindle (entire suspension piece) off the s14. if you don't use the s14 spindle the z32 caliper don't fit on the s13 spindle. and i am only using the rear hubs off the s14... i am also using the s14 rear calipers as the are better then the s13's. thanks allnightsleeper like i said i have read a lot about it i just have a few odds and ends to wrap up before i order the rest of the pieces

[CrimsonRockett]

Honestly, it's easier to just buy 5-lug hubs for the fronts instead of using the entire S14 front spindle.

Rears, just use Z32 NA hubs.

[ryan987]

the problem with using just 5lug hubs for the fronts is that the brake caliper off the z32 wont fit correctly it dont have enough clarence for the rotors.. the s14 spindles do work with the z32 calipers though tthat is why iam using them or plan on it