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I hope you can get the tuning sorted out - would love to see a full tank result.
Maybe it is crap - then again people thought the earth was FLAT.
It is hard to believe some of the claims as many of them are totaly bogus.
Good luck with the testing and either way - Good results or bad results - please keep us informed.
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Best Tank - 10/13/08 - 33.5 MPG City (+35% over EPA Rating)
Sorry I haven't responded any time recently. It's finals week in my final semester so things are kind of tight. Also, anytime I checked when a new message was posted it was normally just a heap of negativity, which I've heard all before, and don't care much about.
However, and I'm unsure why anymore, I will address both the bad as well as the good as I see fit.
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Originally Posted by jayjaya29
If you were getting close to 100MPG then you should apply for The Automotive X Prize.
Dennis Lee announced in the beginning of April that they will be submitting a vehicle modified with the PICC system for the X-Prize. Part of that system is the HAFC. If I enter with just the HAFC, their car would undoubtedly beat mine.
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Originally Posted by eclypse
refuses to do a reasonable test, says a wideband to read AFR (no brainer!) isnt necessary, is an "affiliate" and is swearing it works.
Define reasonable test. I'd like to have the time and money to tune this thing perfect and run it halfway across the country on a tank but, as I'm sure is the case for most of us, that's not an option right now. Maybe in a few months when I graduate.
I want to get the thing tuned right before jumping to upgrades like WB O2 sensors and the like. With my current NB sensor I can adjust it anywhere from 0-1v in 1mv increments. I think 1000 different settings is good enough for now. Perhaps I'll look into a WB later, it would certainly be nice, but I still say I don't absolutely need one.
Oh, and nice mud sling with the affiliate thing. Dude, when have I tried to sell anyone anything? I've actually been telling most people to hold off on buying one until the company has more experience with tuning a wider variety of vehicles and more certified installers and tuners to get the thing working. Nice try, but I'm only reporting what's happening to me which is continually met with the juvenile argument "nuh huh." What reason do I have to lie to you guys if I don't even want you to buy anything?
You've always been my favorite, buddy.
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Originally Posted by 98gle#2
someone needs to put some sparknotes up here...
K
Chapter 1: I announced I was getting and installing an HAFC.
Chapter 2: Everyone (except of course for Eclypse) rooted for me while I got it installed and tuned.
Chapter 3: It worked beyond what was advertised and showed the potential to nearly triple my mileage.
Chapter 4: No one believed me and I have been being shit on ever since.
Good enough?
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Originally Posted by sstupid
I wouldn't want to admit I wasted a bunch of money, either.
See, that's where we're different. You can ask my friends, I am brutally honest about pretty much everything I see necessary. If this thing didn't work and I was ripped off I'd be pissed and ranting on here about it. I would absolutely admit that I wasted a bunch of money so that other people wouldn't make the same mistake.
You're obviously, admittedly very selfish, which makes your lack of faith understandable. You wouldn't want to admit you wasted a bunch of money, so you wouldn't want to admit that someone else beat you to saving a bunch of money either. Both of which make you, an obviously insecure little man, look like an idiot and most people have a problem with that. I, on the other hand, have no problem admitting when I've been dumb as I have the common sense to acknowledge that I am human and therefore don't feel like an idiot admitting my mistakes.
I'm sorry you are so self-righteous and proud but many guys are. And, if it makes you feel any better, I've heard that girls like arrogant ass holes. You and Eclypse must be rolling in the ladies.
I'm actually married kid, but If I had to guess, my TL would pull a little more ass than a mason jar and a few tubes tucked under the hood of a 15 year old Altima.
Besides, its my success and common sense that's attracted more people to me than my cars. Maybe if you had a little of either you wouldnt find it necessary to attack my character on a forums. I've only questioned this project, not your character. Stay focused, shall we?
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My garage:
'01 Altima GXE-LE (fully built..not fully working) build thread here:http://www.nissanclub.com/forums/for...-go-again.html
'05 Acura TL-Navi (i/e, tint, sway bar, fancy brakes)
'72 Nova (dragster, 500+whp on bottles)
'69 Karmann Ghia (show car)
'73 Nova (show car, chromed out 383, 500+hp)
...My Altima's not 15 years old. It's not very new by any standard, but 2000 wasn't 15 years ago.
Also, I was not suggesting your car makes you attractive to the ladies. I was suggesting that women dig ass holes. The arrogant, self-righteous, narrow-minded kind that you have proven yourself to be through your continuous disbelief, slander, and opposition of something you have never even tried.
Oh, and suggesting that I am lying to everyone on the forums to make some cash is a direct assault at my character, so don't get heated over me returning some playful prodding.
Sorry, buddy, but I just have a problem with people who blindly believe something without ever experiencing it for themselves, which is why I made the investment in this system. I was tired of theory and wanted to see for myself. If you're happy with theory, cool, don't buy one, but don't say my system doesn't work when you have absolutely no evidence and I have already proven it does. Proof obviously not to you since I'm sure if I could shrink you down, put you in the gas tank and let you swim in the fuel which seemingly never depletes for hours of a trip, you would still say its a scam, but to anyone who has faith in science and the common sense to realize our ICEs have been running on gasoline for about 100 years with almost no change.
Who's being more unreasonable? Do you really think there is no better way to run an engine than the embarrassingly inefficient current method? If that's your mind set, then big oil has done well on you and is very proud.
See, that's where we're different. You can ask my friends, I am brutally honest about pretty much everything I see necessary. If this thing didn't work and I was ripped off I'd be pissed and ranting on here about it. I would absolutely admit that I wasted a bunch of money so that other people wouldn't make the same mistake.
You're obviously, admittedly very selfish, which makes your lack of faith understandable. You wouldn't want to admit you wasted a bunch of money, so you wouldn't want to admit that someone else beat you to saving a bunch of money either. Both of which make you, an obviously insecure little man, look like an idiot and most people have a problem with that. I, on the other hand, have no problem admitting when I've been dumb as I have the common sense to acknowledge that I am human and therefore don't feel like an idiot admitting my mistakes.
I'm sorry you are so self-righteous and proud but many guys are. And, if it makes you feel any better, I've heard that girls like arrogant ass holes. You and Eclypse must be rolling in the ladies.
Very Nice, how much?
So, how much have you spent to save $30 per tank of gas? (I'm giving you a lot there.) Please include the cost of the motor you're about to burn a hole in.
So, how much have you spent to save $30 per tank of gas? (I'm giving you a lot there.)
It's called an investment. How much would I spend on a Prius that wouldn't come close to my car's potential. You gotta spend money to make money, sir. Plus at this point I'm so excited to see how much mileage gain I can get, like most guys would drop tons of money in their car to see how much HP they can get, I don't even really care much about the cost.
I used to save up money and spend it on stuff to make my car faster or look nicer. Now I save up and spend it on something that actually has a logical monetary return. So, your ridicule is nonsensical. Sorry.
...My Altima's not 15 years old. It's not very new by any standard, but 2000 wasn't 15 years ago.
Also, I was not suggesting your car makes you attractive to the ladies. I was suggesting that women dig ass holes. The arrogant, self-righteous, narrow-minded kind that you have proven yourself to be through your continuous disbelief, slander, and opposition of something you have never even tried.
Oh, and suggesting that I am lying to everyone on the forums to make some cash is a direct assault at my character, so don't get heated over me returning some playful prodding.
Sorry, buddy, but I just have a problem with people who blindly believe something without ever experiencing it for themselves, which is why I made the investment in this system. I was tired of theory and wanted to see for myself. If you're happy with theory, cool, don't buy one, but don't say my system doesn't work when you have absolutely no evidence and I have already proven it does. Proof obviously not to you since I'm sure if I could shrink you down, put you in the gas tank and let you swim in the fuel which seemingly never depletes for hours of a trip, you would still say its a scam, but to anyone who has faith in science and the common sense to realize our ICEs have been running on gasoline for about 100 years with almost no change.
Who's being more unreasonable? Do you really think there is no better way to run an engine than the embarrassingly inefficient current method? If that's your mind set, then big oil has done well on you and is very proud.
you voted for Ron Paul and subscribe to several conspiracy theorists sites too dont you?
Your earlier argument was to say "people affiliated with Big Oil have brainwashed" then later you yourself said you're affiliated with what you're reviewing. Whens the last time you saw Nissan dealership give a better review of a Chevy than their own car? Yea me either. That wasnt an assault on character, thats the facts, as inconvenient towards what you're trying to prove or not.
Your argument for not buying a wideband is moot. You, like the others pushing this system, argue facts with half truths. To do this to your car and not want to monitor your AFR level is as asinine as your other arguments.
Where exactly did you prove it? You "proved it" by driving like 30 miles and adding more chemicals to your car than was used in World War II.
To address not knowing what I havent experienced, I've never experiended anal penetration, but I'm reasonably sure I dont have to in order to tell you I wouldnt enjoy it. But hey I'll fork out $10 for the dildo if you wanna give me your review of it on these forums.
Tell you what, I know you hate using logic and math like I tend to do, but if you're getting 50 mpg, and our tanks are 13-15 gallon tanks, thats 750 miles per tank.
Mapquest from your town to mine:
Total Estimated Time: 13.0 hours 29 minutes
Total Estimated Distance: 834.68 miles
So it should cost you around $60 to get here? What do you make? I'm guessing not much. Tell you what, take a Friday, drive down here. If you really get 50 MPG either way, I'll pay for gas ($120), hotel, food, and whatever hourly rate you'd normally make by being absent from your job. If you marathon through, you can do this in a weekend. What do you say?
you voted for Ron Paul and subscribe to several conspiracy theorists sites too dont you?
Your earlier argument was to say "people affiliated with Big Oil have brainwashed" then later you yourself said you're affiliated with what you're reviewing. Whens the last time you saw Nissan dealership give a better review of a Chevy than their own car? Yea me either. That wasnt an assault on character, thats the facts, as inconvenient towards what you're trying to prove or not.
Your argument for not buying a wideband is moot. You, like the others pushing this system, argue facts with half truths. To do this to your car and not want to monitor your AFR level is as asinine as your other arguments.
Where exactly did you prove it? You "proved it" by driving like 30 miles and adding more chemicals to your car than was used in World War II.
To address not knowing what I havent experienced, I've never experiended anal penetration, but I'm reasonably sure I dont have to in order to tell you I wouldnt enjoy it. But hey I'll fork out $10 for the dildo if you wanna give me your review of it on these forums.
Tell you what, I know you hate using logic and math like I tend to do, but if you're getting 50 mpg, and our tanks are 13-15 gallon tanks, thats 750 miles per tank.
Mapquest from your town to mine:
Total Estimated Time: 13.0 hours 29 minutes
Total Estimated Distance: 834.68 miles
So it should cost you around $60 to get here? What do you make? I'm guessing not much. Tell you what, take a Friday, drive down here. If you really get 50 MPG either way, I'll pay for gas ($120), hotel, food, and whatever hourly rate you'd normally make by being absent from your job. If you marathon through, you can do this in a weekend. What do you say?
It's not a conspiracy, as I think most are ridiculous and just demonstrate paranoia, it's business. Big Oil companies fund political figures so they can keep on doing what their doing with protection from the big guys. It is very smart business. Unethical and wrong, but excellent for profit. There is no gas shortage as we have more reserves on hand than we have had since the early 90's. Also, our demand for oil has gone down 4% since last year. That's not according to me, that's an article in Businessweek. Being a big fan of math and logic I know that economically that doesn't make sense.
Supply goes up = price goes down
Demand goes down = price goes down
It's simple economics. The reality has been the exact opposite, so are you telling me the principles of economics are a conspiracy?
If oil companies are having such a hard time right now why did Exxon and Chevron report record high profits last quarter? It's because they're spending the same amount to drill, refine and transport the oil but we're paying about triple of what we should for it.
Oh, and I believe the original deal was you drive up here. I don't give a shit if you believe it or not, I'm just trying tell you what I've found from my experience and research. The last person I want to prove it to is someone who doesn't want to believe it in the first place. I'm not much of an "I told you so" kind of guy although, admittedly, it did feel good to report my results, especially to you.
If you are so obsessed with proving me wrong drive up here, show me what constitutes a "reasonable test," let me prove you wrong on your terms, and then buy me the damn milkshake for God's sake.
You werent an econ major were you? If you were, please go choke some of your professors. I'll spare getting into gas prices and economics here as it'd be a reeeeally long thread then.
If you're the one with the burden of proof, why is it on me to travel up there? Besides, you're the one that'd save so much gas..
That all said, if you're still swearing this thing works in a year and havent burned any rings out by that time, I'll make my connecting flight through Philly. Can visit some other people I havent seen in a while anyway, so that's an easy trip to justify.
wow...I'm impressed with how absolutely insulting everyone got...
You's is dicks...
Open your minds a little...
Oh and the physics work out if you aren't stupid...as long as you have more energy coming in than going out...you'll have more energy going in than coming out...I'm not too sure what so hard to understand about that
Oh and the physics work out if you aren't stupid...as long as you have more energy coming in than going out...you'll have more energy going in than coming out...I'm not too sure what so hard to understand about that
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