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what are you getting at about it being a pontiac? big fucking deal.
its an LS engine inside. find another argument.
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look any damm day...ill take a maxima over a pontiac. new maxima looks sweet. saw it at my dealer went i took the altima for service last saturday. its a big car...very very nice car. next time i take my altima for service the guy who sold me my car said he would let me test drive it.
It is not very hard to find the difference between the "DE" engine, used in the Altima, and the "HR" engine. Here is one summary:
"Start with a completely redesigned cylinder block with significantly improved rigidity, increase the redline to 7500 rpm, increase fuel efficiency by 10%, throw in continuously variable valve timing control (CVTC) on the intake side and electromagnetic valve timing control (e-VTC) on the exhaust side, decrease friction through application of the world's first hydrogen-free, diamond-like carbon (DLC) coating of internals, add super-ignition iridium spark plugs, and fast light-off O2 sensor control... "
So, since the Altima has different block, does that make it a "detuned HR". Don't think so. The HR has different connecting rods, a different intake system that would not fit on the Altima engine, and a lot of other changes.
All of which are on the Maxima, its only missing another intake duct, 16hp and the increased rev-limiter. HR only stands for higher-rev, nothing else.
I'm 100% positive the current DE's can safely rev up to at least 7400 RPM. It just doesn't make sense for Nissan to waste money making two different VQ's
We have a new RWD vehicle with a nice big V8, an IRS, and has 4 doors for those of us with famlies who enjoy the prospect of having this kind of performance in a sedan.
To be able to oogle and fantasize about something new on the street like this should not have to be explained.
Any automotive enthusiast should at least somewhat understand - in particular those like myself who are rooted in (and crazy about) the muscle car phenomenon.
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I've already expressed my thoughts on the grounds of this "comparison", but I want to shed some light on what I think is the direction of the automakers.
I think some of you are getting confused on what the G8 is meant to do (for Pontiac). Similar to how GM revived the Cadillac brand by abandoning FWD platforms (CTS > Catera, STS > Seville, XLR > El Dorado) and changing car names to letters, Pontiac is following suit by dropping the FWD Grand Prix and adopting the G8 as its RWD replacement.
Nissan considered making the Maxima RWD, but chose not to in consideration of efficiency and space. Think about what the Maxima would be if they had made it RWD. The ugly, slightly-cheaper twin to an M35? I think Nissan's applications of the same platforms are saturated as-is. It would have been a lateral move from sharing the Altima platform to sharing the M platform. Either way, there'd be something very similar with another badge.
Don't hate the car (G8) because it's faster than yours and sexier than the blowfish-looking '09 Maxima.
Actual photo of '09 Maxima:
Dislike the G8 for its flaws (please name some if you can find them). Though the Holden that it's rebadged from was completely designed in AU, remember that GM owns the company. It's not like it had no oversight from this side of the world. It was a well-thought move by GM.
All of which are on the Maxima, its only missing another intake duct, 16hp and the increased rev-limiter. HR only stands for higher-rev, nothing else.
I'm 100% positive the current DE's can safely rev up to at least 7400 RPM. It just doesn't make sense for Nissan to waste money making two different VQ's
Dexion, do you just enjoy being WRONG? Or are you incapable of looking up the FACTS. The DE engine and the HR engine are two different engines. THe Maxima has the DE engine, so the engine block, and most other parts are different from the HR engines in the Infinitis and the Zs. Nissan has been been making different VQs for some time. If you didn't have your head up your.... you might have noticed that the Pathfinder and the Frontier have a different engine.
Dexion, do you just enjoy being WRONG? Or are you incapable of looking up the FACTS. The DE engine and the HR engine are two different engines. THe Maxima has the DE engine, so the engine block, and most other parts are different from the HR engines in the Infinitis and the Zs. Nissan has been been making different VQs for some time. If you didn't have your head up your.... you might have noticed that the Pathfinder and the Frontier have a different engine.
Yes thats the VQ40 I'm talking about the VQ35, and everything you stated in your earlier post is in the Altima and Maxima VQ35. To end all this once and for all someone just needs to take apart and compare a Z engine to the Altima/Maxima engine.
The G8 runs circles around the Maxima as far as performance, I don't know about functionality though.
I don't get all the Pontiac bashing or the fact that it based on the Holden. My trips to Australia are not very frequent so I have not seen one and if the styling is good who cares where it came from. Plus, the only styling the Maxima driver will have to like is the rear end becasue that is all they will be seeing.
The G8 GT looks good, nice body lines, looks like good bang for the buck aswell. Would have to give it the nod over the Maxima, better handling, brakes, looks, and .6 & 4+ mph faster in the 1/4 and 2+ seconds quicker to 100mph is a shutout. Not bad for a car that could probably be had for under $30k.
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Yes thats the VQ40 I'm talking about the VQ35, and everything you stated in your earlier post is in the Altima and Maxima VQ35. To end all this once and for all someone just needs to take apart and compare a Z engine to the Altima/Maxima engine.
The G8 runs circles around the Maxima as far as performance, I don't know about functionality though.
Dexion, I'll use small words, so as not to confuse you. The VQ35HR engine and the VQ35DE engine are different. As I said, the blocks are different, the heads are different, the connecting rods are different. The HR engines are built in Japan, the DE engines are built in the US. My guess is that Nissan actually knows their own engines. It is NOT necessary for someone to "take apart" an RWD Z engine, or the Alti/Maxi engine. The info is easily available to anyone smart enough to do a search. The "new" engine was described in an ariticle in Nissan Performance Magazine. The HR engine has been described in a fair amount of detail by Nissan. You (stubbornly) stated that "just doesn't make sense for Nissan to waste money making two different VQ's ", and I pointed out that there were already more than one VQ. But you missed the point. You can get your parents to take you to a Nissan dealer, and maybe they will show you the info in the parts manual. Or maybe you can get someone to help you do an internet search. Here's a clue:http://www.nissan-global.com/EN/DOCU...Engine_Eng.pdf
Lol I'm impressed at how easily I can anger someone over the internet, I've read that PDF and all of those features in there are in the 4th Gen VQ35DE as well, minus RWD setup, dual intakes, higher rev-limiter, and perhaps some other things.
I'll say it again... the only difference between the motor in the 2009 Maxima and the 2008 G35 Sedan are 16hp and 8ft-lbs of torque, dual-intakes, dual-exhausts, and a RWD platform. (guessing due to an extra intake 900 more RPM of fun on the G, and the ECU game.)
I guess some people just can't see what I'm trying to say. Didn't importroller already say that when he spoke to his friend who worked in a shop he discovered that its the same motor? Don't make me bring out the Pete Hadios link!
Lol I'm impressed at how easily I can anger someone over the internet, I've read that PDF and all of those features in there are in the 4th Gen VQ35DE as well, minus RWD setup, dual intakes, higher rev-limiter, and perhaps some other things.
I'll say it again... the only difference between the motor in the 2009 Maxima and the 2008 G35 Sedan are 16hp and 8ft-lbs of torque, dual-intakes, dual-exhausts, and a RWD platform. (guessing due to an extra intake 900 more RPM of fun on the G, and the ECU game.)
I guess some people just can't see what I'm trying to say. Didn't importroller already say that when he spoke to his friend who worked in a shop he discovered that its the same motor? Don't make me bring out the Pete Hadios link!
If the Maxi has a VQ35DE, you're right, except that the two motors have different cranks, blocks, heads, connecting rods, etc. I understand completely what you're trying to say. And it is completely, totally wrong, unless the Maxi has the HR engine, not the DE. If you read the PDF, and didn't see that the engines are different, you are clearly somewhat impaired. Per the Nissan website, the engine is a "DE", not an "HR".
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about something new on the street like this should not have to be explained. 
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