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It is not very hard to find the difference between the "DE" engine, used in the Altima, and the "HR" engine. Here is one summary:
"Start with a completely redesigned cylinder block with significantly improved rigidity, increase the redline to 7500 rpm, increase fuel efficiency by 10%, throw in continuously variable valve timing control (CVTC) on the intake side and electromagnetic valve timing control (e-VTC) on the exhaust side, decrease friction through application of the world's first hydrogen-free, diamond-like carbon (DLC) coating of internals, add super-ignition iridium spark plugs, and fast light-off O2 sensor control... "
So, since the Altima has different block, does that make it a "detuned HR". Don't think so. The HR has different connecting rods, a different intake system that would not fit on the Altima engine, and a lot of other changes.
Why are you talking about the HR? Nobody is comparing those two. The maxima has the DE just like the one used in the Altima and it makes 20 more hp.
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Okay so it's not much faster than the Alti, if any, but it costs more, uses more fuel, and is an Australian car badged as a Pontiac which may or may not be better (only thing we really know is it's different).....
So what am I missing???? Why is there such a following around this car? I know, I know... finally an "american" V8..... problem is, when pressed that it's a Pontiac, the fans quickly point out that it is actually a Holden.... built and designed in Australia.....
By all accounts it's just a slower GTO with 2 extra doors and a lower MPG.... which is funny since they don't even sell the GTO in America anymore because of sluggish sales.....
So what am I missing?????? Why the mystique?????
As a 06 GTO owner ( and ALTIMA) let me inform the uninformed.......the GTO was ALWAYS A 3 YEAR PLANNED MODEL......no matter how many sold only 3 years 04-06 were on the table due to the Holden Monaro being phased out down under........and needed changes for the air bag design was cost prohibitive.
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i like the max. because it has class. fuc that fast n furious looking get a ticket crap. its all about the bling and reliability. v8 engines are on there way out because of gas. Japanese technology baby
Japanese technology? Wow, nice ignorant statement right there, funny because thier V8s are getting simular fuel economy as a Japanese V6 but with more torrque and more hp...
Some of you guys know very little about what you are talking about so I won't even bother to corrrect half of these dumb options and false statements I've been reading.
Some of the crap I just read almost makes me embaressed to own a Nissan.
Japanese technology? Wow, nice ignorant statement right there, funny because thier V8s are getting simular fuel economy as a Japanese V6 but with more torrque and more hp...
Some of you guys know very little about what you are talking about so I won't even bother to corrrect half of these dumb options and false statements I've been reading.
Some of the crap I just read almost makes me embaressed to own a Nissan.
reliability still sucks in american cars. history says it all. if your embarrassed about owning a nissan then go buy a v8 pontiac that can save just as much gas.
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Japanese technology? Wow, nice ignorant statement right there, funny because thier V8s are getting simular fuel economy as a Japanese V6 but with more torrque and more hp...
Some of you guys know very little about what you are talking about so I won't even bother to corrrect half of these dumb options and false statements I've been reading.
Some of the crap I just read almost makes me embaressed to own a Nissan.
Some of the ricer'ish bashing is real lame, I for one don't get caught up in the "American Made" "Japanese Quality" hogwash. Every make has thier pro's and con's.
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Nissan is also pretty much a domestic car these days. Built and assembled in good'ol USA, with few exceptions. Toyota is built here as well and they have a good track record.
So it's not so much an issue of domestics vs imports, but an issue of quality control on behalf of manufacturers and how much they are willing to pay attention to.
Nissan is pretty much average or sometimes below the market average according to the JD Power dependability studies. They are sometimes surpassed by companies such as Buick, Ford, Mercury, Lincoln and Cadillac. Actually, according to the track record of past few years, they have always been surpassed by domestics and have been worse than the industry average.
Here's 2006 Vehicle Dependability Study (VDS) | J.D. Power and Associates
Here's 2007 2007 Vehicle Dependability Study (VDS) | J.D. Power and Associates
Nissan is way low on this one
No, this is not a bash on Nissan, but let's get some perspective here, people. If you drive a Lexus or Toyota, you are welcome to bash. Otherwise, you should have a seat and calm down. So don't play the dependability card.
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As a former '05 GTO owner let me chime in on Holden and GM.
I should start by saying I loved my Goat. Fit and finish, interior material choices were flawless. Add to that an LS2 with a 6M, 400 HP and 400 ft/lb of torque, and it was just a plain joy to drive as well as a thrill ride when you wanted. Something about knowing you can kick the ass of 99% of the cars on the road- - -
Now the bad part. GM service and support. My experience at 2 dealerships near me was the same- -little to no training on the GTO, and little to no knowledge about any of the problems. Most problems arose because of changes GM made to an existing platform to make it more "sellable".
Anyhow, the gas price climb was the icing on the cake for me. Sold it this past March to a guy from Kentucky, and I hope he's having fun with it. Not looking back, but occasionally, when I pull up at a light next to a Mustang GT, or a Camaro SS, I remember how nice it was to be in that Goat.
I'd take the G8 over an Altima any day, based on what I've seen in my 3rd gen. I haven't ridden in a 4th gen Altima or the G8, and I own the Altima with, arguably, the crappiest interior of the entire Altima series ('02). Still, I think I could make that decision with confidence.
The only thing that might make me think twice about a v8 is the fuel economy.
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Japanese technology? Wow, nice ignorant statement right there, funny because thier V8s are getting simular fuel economy as a Japanese V6 but with more torrque and more hp...
Some of you guys know very little about what you are talking about so I won't even bother to corrrect half of these dumb options and false statements I've been reading.
Some of the crap I just read almost makes me embaressed to own a Nissan.
no doubt. even some of the older no technology v'8s are getting 25mpg with some new technology added to them.
hell, v8's out of the factory nowadays are getting mileage that good. i dont care if you have to feather the gas on a corvette on the freeway as someone mentioned earlier, youre still getting great mileage.
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Interesting article comaring apples and oranges, basically. Don't know where these cars are "targeted", but I bet GM and Nissan didn't expect them to compete with each other.
One thing to consider. The G8 hadn't hit the showroom before both GM and the aftermarket had parts for it. GM Hi Tech Perf magazine did a drag test, and tune. It may be YEARS before anyone has any add-ons for the Maxi.
IMO Nissan should have just killed off the Maxima, it was the king of its time (1990's) but now its just outmatched and the G8 just kills everybody for price/power combo. I forsee the Maxima finally being put to rest after this generation. Right now its nothing but a slightly less expensive FWD M35.
When its all said and done though, Maxima is the only reason Nissan was even known here in the states, it was a truely a breadwinner for its time.
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