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Old 11-03-2009, 08:44 PM
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The only way to truly get rid of swirls on a black finish will be to have the swirls(light scratches), polished out. Many waxes will hide the effects for a short time, but it will ALWAYS come back. This is because the wax fills the scratch and stops the light from reflecting in a way that allows it to be seen. As the wax wears, it will return...

Best bet, polish out the whole surface, glaze it, and then wax it. It can be done by hand, but the best way will be a machine.

I had to educate a friend with a Super Black SE-R...Used to take his car in for detailing every couple of months until I showed him that all they were doing was waxing the car. I spent a whole day polishing it with a DA machine, and we took the car out into the light before waxing....No swirls anywhere.
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how about wet sanding it down and use a buffer to shine it back up
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thats the thing, ive never used the machine to clean a car, ive seen it done millions of times, but ive never personally done it myself, i think i would rather do it myself though, cuz ive heard about all the crap people do to cars that are not theirs, so how would i do this myself? anyone have any ideas?
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Old 11-04-2009, 05:11 AM
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thats the thing, ive never used the machine to clean a car, ive seen it done millions of times, but ive never personally done it myself, i think i would rather do it myself though, cuz ive heard about all the crap people do to cars that are not theirs, so how would i do this myself? anyone have any ideas?
I wouldn't recommend wet sanding your Altima as your first attempt at wet sanding! Factory clear coat and paint is fairly thin, and you can easily eff it up. If you have any friends that work at detail shops or body shops, maybe you could talk them into coming over and teaching you, or have them buff your car for you.

On a side note, I waxed my car today with that DuPont wax I mentioned above. I like it. It says to spray directly on the car, but that's not a good idea cuz it usually ends up splattering on the glass a little bit. It was cool out this afternoon, about 45-50 degrees, and the wax didn't take very long at all to dry. That was impressive. And it was very easy to remove as well. We'll see how long it lasts.
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Old 11-04-2009, 06:50 AM
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how about wet sanding it down and use a buffer to shine it back up
Not a very good idea, unless you know what you are doing with both the sandpaper and a true buffer. Not a DA, a rotary. I have colorsanded and buffed out both of my cars, so yes it CAN be done, BUT, I have the equipment and the experience to do it.

I will admit though, Sheer Silver looks awesome when it is a mirror.

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The only way to truly get rid of swirls on a black finish will be to have the swirls(light scratches), polished out. Many waxes will hide the effects for a short time, but it will ALWAYS come back. This is because the wax fills the scratch and stops the light from reflecting in a way that allows it to be seen. As the wax wears, it will return...

Best bet, polish out the whole surface, glaze it, and then wax it. It can be done by hand, but the best way will be a machine.

I had to educate a friend with a Super Black SE-R...Used to take his car in for detailing every couple of months until I showed him that all they were doing was waxing the car. I spent a whole day polishing it with a DA machine, and we took the car out into the light before waxing....No swirls anywhere.
You're on NWAltimas, right? I think I've seen you on that board. And I gotta agree with you on the professional detailing part; I'm not going to bring my car in for professional detailing anymore unless it's a shop recommended by someone at least as anal as I am about my car.

Monster289, I'd love to see the effect of that wax you mentioned. Meguair's NXT 2.0 is the best I've come across so far, and it lasts for at least 4 months or so. Swirls start to show then, but water repellant capabilities are still there. It's the closest thing to magic I've seen.
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You're on NWAltimas, right? I think I've seen you on that board. And I gotta agree with you on the professional detailing part; I'm not going to bring my car in for professional detailing anymore unless it's a shop recommended by someone at least as anal as I am about my car.

Monster289, I'd love to see the effect of that wax you mentioned. Meguair's NXT 2.0 is the best I've come across so far, and it lasts for at least 4 months or so. Swirls start to show then, but water repellant capabilities are still there. It's the closest thing to magic I've seen.
NWAltimas??? Never heard of it...LOL

Yes I am one of the founding members of the 'club'.

There are a lot of good waxes out there. I am partial to NXT myself, I use the paste form applied with a DA.
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Old 11-05-2009, 03:05 AM
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Monster289, I'd love to see the effect of that wax you mentioned. Meguair's NXT 2.0 is the best I've come across so far, and it lasts for at least 4 months or so. Swirls start to show then, but water repellant capabilities are still there. It's the closest thing to magic I've seen.
I'll keep you posted how long the stuff lasts. It was very easy to use, and like I mentioned, I was impressed that it dried very quickly even in the cold.
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