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Old 05-13-2008, 06:58 AM
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A little computer help...

Even after building about 10 computers so far, this little problem wont go away

I decided to upgrade my parents computer for them.. New mobo, new ram, new cpu... just the case and hdd were reused. I cleared off the HDD, formated it, installed xp, installed drivers, and everything went fine. Now, when it restarted, the computer says Disk Boot from CD: Boot failure, insert system disk, and press enter. I inserted the cd, pressed enter and after about 2 minutes, Windows started loading up just fine. I went into the bios and checked the boot order, set it to HDD first, removal drive second, and CD-rom third. Tried it again... same thing. Reformatted and installed windows again... same thing...

Any ideas why this keeps happening. If i need to keep the windows cd in the drive when starting the comp up, its going to be really freaking annoying.. I've googled for an answer but cant get one definite one... Anyone ever see this before?
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Old 05-13-2008, 07:14 AM
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BTW, I'm only using one IDE hard drive and one IDE DVD burner.... their both on the same cable, the DVD burner set to slave on the jumpers and the HDD set to master..... could that be the problem? Stupid new board only has one IDE input.... maybe its time for a sata drive?
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Old 05-13-2008, 07:51 AM
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maybe there is some physical damage to your hard drive where the boot sector is stored on a windows install.
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Old 05-13-2008, 07:54 AM
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ran a test on the hard drive and came back with no bad sectors..... im thinking it might be the cable itself.... im going to try and unplug the dvd drive and see if that works
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Old 05-13-2008, 02:14 PM
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What the hell were you two doing troubleshooting computers at 3 in the morning?
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Old 05-13-2008, 02:32 PM
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I went into the bios and checked the boot order, set it to HDD first, removal drive second, and CD-rom third. Tried it again... same thing.
did you try changing the boot order from the sequence you have it on now ?
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Old 05-13-2008, 02:48 PM
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So lets get this straight.

- Replaced a bunch of stuff.
- Installed XP fresh on an old drive, ps and case, new everything else.
- Computer won't boot to the hard disk, but it will boot to the C: copy of Windows if you insert the cdrom. It doesn't run setup again, it just loads windows as you've configured it.
- You played with the boot order, but it doesn't seem to help.

What happens if you remove the optical drive altogether?

It sounds like your XP install for whatever reason did not put the MBR on teh hard disk, or the motherboard is not set to allow IDE boot hard disks...which would be weird, but I've seen weirder things. There may be a setting in the BIOS somewhere deep thats not allowing boot to IDE devices.

You would probably be well served to just do a new hard disk...SATA drives are cheap and fast and you're already into it for a few hundred...might as well finish the job and do a new drive.
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It sounds like your XP install for whatever reason did not put the MBR on teh hard disk,
That's what I was going to say. Try repairing the boot record, or boot up with a program like linux partitioner and check out your drive's flags and format.
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Old 05-13-2008, 08:05 PM
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Sigh...this used to be so easy to fix in DOS.

fdisk /mbr from a boot floppy and you're done and people thought you were more of a miracle worker than with XP/Vista becuase you had to type it, not click it.

Good times.
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Old 05-13-2008, 08:13 PM
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You probably have to set the partition as active. Other than that, the only thing I can think of is to edit the boot.ini file and make sure its pointing to the correct device. I have cloned hard drives before repeatedly trying to fix boot errors only to realize the boot.ini settings were not correct or to not have the partition set as active.

You may have to take out the hard drive and attach it to another machine and go under Control Panel -> Administrative Tools -> Disk Management then right click the drive and set to active.

If you still have an old dos boot disk with fdisk, one of its features was to be able to set a partition as the active parition.

Other than that, I can't think of anything else. Good luck!
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Old 05-13-2008, 09:20 PM
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So I disconnected the DVD drive, and the computer booted up without the prompt faster than ever before also.... leading me to believe that it has something to do with the cable, the bios settings, or something else.. The dvd drive was pulled from my personal computer to install windows so its only temp... I just placed an order for a SATA Samsung dvd drive on newegg a few minutes ago, so I'm going to throw that in there instead. O well, problem fixed for now. Thanks for the suggestions guys
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I would have ditched the IDE HDD before shooting for a SATA DVD.
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Old 05-13-2008, 10:36 PM
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ide drives are fine if you're doing typical stuff. No need to upgrade to a sata drive if an ide drive is running fine
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Old 05-13-2008, 10:57 PM
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Hard drive and dvd drive were using the same IRQ not that uncommon of a problem when they share the same cable.
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I would never put an optical on the same chain as a HDD anyway. Your mobo probably has 2 IDE buses, so use them. HDD Master Primary, DVD Master Secondary.
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