^ Just unobservant. Usually it states on the menu that gratuity is included for parties of 6 (or 8) or more.
I only tip the usual places, restaurants, movers, etc. Never, ever, thought of tipping my garbage people. What about cruise ships? Isn't it "required" that you tip certain people?
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Restaurants are shit these days. Theyll try to get you to pay a double tip by including it in the bill. We went to Olive Garden one night with a large group of people. My old man paid the waitress a tip, they came back with the bill, "gratuity included". He ended up blowing 50 bucks for tip alone, he didnt notice till it was too late. (And my dad had worked as a cook in a restaurant for 15 years, so he knows how the tipping system should work). Ive heard from others having this problem at Olive Garden and similar restaurants.
They recently added this to just about most resturants. Any party of 6-8 or more people as it says at the bottom of the menu will automatically have a "gratuity" of something like 15% or more (i've seen 18%+)
It's actually at the discression of the manager/waiter if that gratuity is added to the bill or more. A few of my friends got together and were leaving a resturant a little "too messy" and eating "too much" (all you can eat buffet) according to the waiter and that the automatic grauity was raised (no joke). They had to go to the manager to fight it and he said that they had enough to eat and asked to calmly leave.
In the future I really see people getting paid extra just "to do their job" regardless of the service being satisfactory or unsatisfactory. Gratuity is no longer an option, it is going to be mandatory like it is expected. Double gratuity is going to be the new standard in which if they did a satisfactory job, they get an automatic tip+the tip you give them, so they get tipped anyway even if you don't add it on....
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I just went out this evening with a couple of people, gave a 25% tip, the guy beside me gave 25% tip, then the other guy took the cash, put his CC down, then tried to leave a 10% total tip. We called him out on it, but it was really awkward. What do you guys do when people do stuff like that?
I also hate when I go out with a large group, and everyone puts down a large tip (because the waiter/ress deserved it), but then someone takes this to mean they can just not pay, thereby making a great tip into a shitty one, but you can never really be sure who did it.
I saw someone say to leave 15% of the cost of the room for a house keeping tip at a hotel. Does this seem anywhere near sane? At any large city this is a $30+ a day tip. That's INSANE. Does anyone actually leave that much?
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We wanted to buy a cake for dessert so we can all eat it there. They wouldnt let us buy the cake, we had to buy it by the slice, which would have been about 50 bucks, versus 12 bucks for the "take home" price. Manager was being an ass, they only brought one little bowl of breadsticks and never brought more (unlimited breadsticks my ass), they never brought anyone a glass of water. It was pretty lame.
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I follow all of those rules for tipping and quite frankly, tipping does ensure better and faster service. If you do it often enough and to the right people, you get top notch service.
I always tip quite well at bars that I'm going to return to, and who retain their employees. At these places, I receive excellent service, sometimes free drinks, and often happy hour pricing for the duration of my visit.
What I hate, is the idea that you should tip a percentage of the bill. Bullshlt. The waitress who brought me a $8 burger worked just has hard as the one who brought me a $25 steak. I tip the service, not the bill. I've left $10 tip on a $10 tab before, due to getting great service, but also left $5 on a $40 tab when the service was slow or something was wrong.
They call it a "Gentleman's Guide" but do not mention anything about "Gentleman's Clubs". They're missing the strip joints.
There should be some type of invert ratio between % tip and the bitches' weight divided by number of Mexicans in there.
What I hate, is the idea that you should tip a percentage of the bill. Bullshlt. The waitress who brought me a $8 burger worked just has hard as the one who brought me a $25 steak. I tip the service, not the bill. I've left $10 tip on a $10 tab before, due to getting great service, but also left $5 on a $40 tab when the service was slow or something was wrong.
Typically there are two main issues with the above (emphasize typically).
1. The waiter/waitress in higher end restaurants tends to carry much more professionalism and attention to detail then the lower end restaurant, basically you're getting what you pay for. This goes from attire to the number of times they need to return to your table to take away courses, clean the table, replace silverware, etc.
2. The waiter or waitress is probably paid the same hourly wage in both a high end and low end restaurants, but the turn over time of each table is completely different as are the number of tables each server is assigned to at any given time. In high end restaurants, servers usually have very few tables allowing them to be more attentive and actually handle all the tasks associated to higher end meals, along with this in a higher end restaurant the turn over time is a lot longer because of the amount of time it takes to eat through 3 + courses.
I'll give an example. I love Morimoto's in Philadelphia and between business and pleasure trip to Philly, I've had the opportunity to eat there many times. This restuarant is not cheap though, running $120 + per person before drinks on a tasting menu. Each server is only assigned two or three tables a night so they can be extra attentive. The other item is you usually spend 2.5 or more hours eating a tasting menu, so over the course of a night, the server may only handle 6 - 8 tables (some people don't get the tasting menu). So although the tip will be large for a table, the amount made will be limited by the turn-over.
I've never been a server, but I definatey believe is tipping well.
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2. The waiter or waitress is probably paid the same hourly wage in both a high end and low end restaurants, but the turn over time of each table is completely different as are the number of tables each server is assigned to at any given time. In high end restaurants, servers usually have very few tables allowing them to be more attentive and actually handle all the tasks associated to higher end meals, along with this in a higher end restaurant the turn over time is a lot longer because of the amount of time it takes to eat through 3 + courses.
Good point on the table turns. As to the attention, I take that into account regardless of menu prices.
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