I tell you what it is treason in my opinion. They should be impeached and put on trial for failure to uphold the Constitution and the second amendment. What part of "Shall not be infringed" is not clear.
^ The PPS kinda does. My handgun. I have a 7 round mag and an 8 round mag. The 8 round is now illegal.
PPS = sub-compact. If you can't get a full grip w/o using finger spacers, it's a pocket gun, aka sub-compact. There are quite a few sub-compacts that holds 7-8, but like I said, don't know any full sized home defense type handguns that are sub 7 rds.
I completely agree with you in regards to NY.. NY sucks balls.
My carry piece is always loaded with 15+1. I'm a decent shot, but extra ammo definitely does not hurt especially under stress situations. Plus I feel better knowing that I'm OK if I forget extra mags since in most cases 16 SHOULD do the job in SD scenarios.
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I was simply saying that flaming is a part of life and it is severely lacking in the forums that just run wild like Zebra. We have no lions to hunt the Zebra so they eat, fcuk, and multiply into an entire sections of retards with useless information.
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I find it anything but hilarious. It's downright sad to see prices skyrocketing mainly because people are hoarding everything they can get their hands on and turning around and doubling the price. Also I'm sure when you said “better gun control" you meant infringement on our Second Amendment rights.
it's not really infringing on your rights to own a weapon. If they suddenly said you aren't allowed to own any firearms, then you would have a valid argument. Stating that you can only have a certain size magazine, is not infringing on anything. all of you will adjust and be just fine. a few will always make it worse for the masses. Thats why cars have speed limiters, its why there are speed limits, same reason there are laws everywhere to try to keep people safe from each other. The only problem is that the fully automatic assault rifles that have been illegal for a long time, are still in circulation, and criminals and those who are mentally unstable can still have access.
But on the same token, if you already have large magazines, or assault weapons, what are you worried about exactly unless you plan to do something illegal with them? If you aren't doing anything wrong, no one is going to check you or your weapon unless you put yourself in a position to where you already knew you are doing something you shouldn't be doing.
it's not really infringing on your rights to own a weapon.
Actually what you are stating is the very definition of infringement ... but let's just deal with one inaccuracy at a time ...
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...The only problem is that the fully automatic assault rifles that have been illegal for a long time, are still in circulation, and criminals and those who are mentally unstable can still have access.
Fully automatic (Class III) firearms are legal to own in 43 states and most of the territories of the US. They fell under rather strict monitoring with the Gun Control Act of 1932. According to FBI and BATFE reports, since 1932 no legally owned automatic has ever been used in a crime. Nope not one ... nada .... zero, none-sir-re-bob. Believe me, the anti civil rights groups that want to restrict firearm ownership would be all over an example if they could find one. By the way there are over one hundred thousand legally owned Class III firearms in the U.S.
What the mainstream media calls Assault Weapons are used in about 0.4% of crimes involving firearms according to the FBI. True assault rifles (fully automatic) are used so infrequently that the FBI does not bother to calculate the statistic.
Criminals and mentally unstable can and do access all sorts of contraband, no law will change that. In fact a case can be built that the more restrictive the law the more access they have (again according to several FBI reports on the issue). While it may seem counter-intuitive it makes sense once you read the literature on the subject, so access is a moot argument.
So what you state to be "the only problem" is not really a problem at all! This should be good news to most thinking individuals.
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the problem is some people believe that if we allow the government to take the guns in question, then we have relinquished our most powerful weapons which would make tyranny and take overs more possible for someone to achieve. in other words they disarm us and we are easier targets. now what the end game and reasons are who knows? population control? its already in the budget, as well as weather manipulation. I wouldn't put it past the government to do a damn thing. Theres already a 90k square foot facility with acres of underground buildings in the Ozarks....you don't believe me Google it. So when the shit hits the fan the higher powers that be have a hiding spot, also in that Ozark area there have been more tremors and earthquakes than ever before, why?, because they were drilling holes in the mountains to build this facility.....
I know i rambled on this one but read it twice and then Google it.....
It should read the privilege to bear arms. People also need to remember when that was written we were in a war on US soil and all citizens and residents were called to the war effort to fight. It should have been amended after the times changed to reflect the current world. I love guns, I love shooting them, but hope to never have to use one for killing someone. But anyways, post up more pics of what you got. Arguing isn't going to solve anything on this forum
The second amendment was instated to ensure that the public could be armed in case the government tried to rise up and overtake the masses. Therefore, we could be prepared to overthrow the government as per the declaration of independence "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just Powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government,..."
At a time like this, people are right to be arming themselves to the 9's. When the feds knock on your door, and tell you that you no longer have rights, lets see who has the last laugh
It should read the privilege to bear arms. People also need to remember when that was written we were in a war on US soil and all citizens and residents were called to the war effort to fight. It should have been amended after the times changed to reflect the current world. I love guns, I love shooting them, but hope to never have to use one for killing someone. But anyways, post up more pics of what you got. Arguing isn't going to solve anything on this forum
Tooslow, you need a basic history lesson as to the timing of the revolution and the Articles of Confederation and the US Constitution. You also need a primer on English Common Law, the laws in place when we were a colony and the prime reason for the revolution in the first place.
Gun RIGHTS were already present in English law, they stemmed from Common Law and the Magna Carta signed in the 1200's. Read the Federalist Papers or any of the editorials in the Colonial newspapers of the time and you will see it was King George's attempt to restrict gun RIGHTS as the primary reason for the revolt ... not taxation as is commonly thought of today.
I'm not trying to be rude here, or insult you, but you are so very ignorant of the facts that it's rather frightening.
Oh, and by the way, the writings of the Founding Fathers supporet of gun RIGHTS continues for decades after the end of the revolution, almost to the 1800's. So your premise that the amendment was due to a current war is absurdely incorrect!
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Sure .... whatever .... while totally ignorant people post opinion that will unravel public policy that is so important that folks who get it have DIED protecting it .... sure that's a good idea.
Start posting pictures of your air guns ... because that is all that you will have within a decade if those ignorant of history and facts continue to blather their drivel uncontested.
Yep ... that 's a grand idea ... anyone want to see my Walther LG210? It's a great 10 meter gun ... and the pellets are cheap and politically correct.
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