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Old 08-24-2008, 11:36 PM
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1. a fool is a person that says unleaded gas and does not state what octane . if 87 and 91 are both unleaded , by you saying "unleaded" doesn't explain which gas your talking about .

2. you didn't , other wise you would have used the correct terminology .

3. it kills the conversation when you say "unleaded" to make a point , because then i have to guess what you were trying to say .

4. if you don't see the stupidity in that statement , i'm sending the "little bus" to come and pick you up !!!

again , if you have 2 grades of gas , regular unleaded and premium unleaded , both grades begin with the name unleaded , so the only thing that makes the 2 descriptions different is regular and premium , use proper terminology so you don't sound like an idiot .

p.s. all gas is unleaded , there is no need to use the word unleaded anymore , its an old term that doesn't apply any longer
The correct terminology is Unleaded gas. There is Regular, Plus, Premium(or Super which is the same thing). They all have a minimum octane rating. I am aware of all of this. Its funny that it bothers you so much that I refer to Regular unleaded as unleaded. The only thing that is stupid is you arguing with me over this stupidity. Keep your little bus on your own property!
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Old 08-25-2008, 12:00 AM
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The correct terminology is Unleaded gas. There is Regular, Plus, Premium(or Super which is the same thing). They all have a minimum octane rating. I am aware of all of this. Its funny that it bothers you so much that I refer to Regular unleaded as unleaded. The only thing that is stupid is you arguing with me over this stupidity. Keep your little bus on your own property!
When you first said unleaded, I was telling myself THERE ALL unleaded so WHICH octane fuel are you talking about.

When you are talking about "Oh it must have unleaded", of COURSE it has unleaded. However, you should have said regular or premium so we know which unleaded your talking about.

You refering regular gas as unleaded didn't make sense because all of them are unleaded.


Anyway, this is really stupid, you go and talk about your unleaded fuel makes less power then the other unleaded fuel .

The Accord is a fast car and you can't sleep on them anymore. However, I beat two (So I am 2-0 so far). If I lose to one, I will post it. Like I said earlier, I am going to rematch my buds Accord V6 this time with the almighty 94 octane sunaco fuel. I will post the results.
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Old 08-25-2008, 12:11 AM
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The G has more drivetrain loss then a FWD vehicle. So the motor could be putting down more power, but when it gets to the wheels, theres too many things it has to go through.

I don't think you should be running your mouth about how the Accord has a SOHC and it puts down more power then a 3 year old vehicle.

The Accord's engine, like most Honda motors, is very well tuned from the factory. Where the VQ is pretty bad when it comes to well tuned. Running A/F ratios that would make a turbo car run rich is pretty bad if you ask me.

Why don't you compare the 2008 Accord V6 with the 2008 Infiniti G35?

Hell, why don't compare the MOST tuned 3.5L engine from Honda, the TL-S version that has a higher compression ratio then the Accords.

The G puts more power down and theres STILL a ton of room for tuning.

In the earlier years, you know that Nissan always OVER-rated their engines and nowadays, they can't do that anymore.

and HondaV6, your the fool for saying UNLEADED gas. Both premium and regular is unleaded so your not be very specific.

When it comes to the Auto's, the 2003 Accord V6 is faster then the 2008 Accord V6. My old boss has a 2003 Accord V6 5AT with an AEM CAi and raced his little brothers 2008 Accord V6 5AT. The 2003 pulled ahead everytime (Not by a lot though, he was walking him).

Then my old boss wanted to race my car and was claiming he would have smoked me. Anyway, we did a few runs and he got destroyed everytime. I would instantly start to put car lengths on him when we went from a roll.

I respect Honda's vehicles. They have great frames and well tuned overall vehicles, however, most of the owners are cocky bastards which isn't really fair to bash the vehicle.

I just need a good tune (12.5:1 A/F ratio) and I am sure the car would make another 12-15WHP easy.
It doesn't really matter if the G35 is 3 years older or not. I think its great that finally Honda is putting a 3.5L engine in a accord that puts out some great numbers in 6MT form even with a SOHC.

Honda J series engines could actually use a bit of tuning just like the VQ's. The J30A4(my engine) runs rich from the factory to start. Also we have a highly restricted exhaust/j-pipe as well as a very restricted airbox design including no Variable Intake Manifold like the 6MT has. With just I/E/UR Crank Pulley, J-Pipe and a much needed VAF-C with tuning this engine puts down 239WHP out of just 3.0L in 5AT and even more out of the 6MT. Thats not including the TL Type -S cams which you can swap for the accord cams or the Variable Intake Manifold from the 6MT. The 3.0L alone could easily put out 300 crank HP if Honda wanted it to. The J35Z from the 6MT accord only makes 77hp per liter which is a low number. Even the J30A4 makes more HP per liter. Honda could put some impressive down with the J35 but for some reason they choose not to. Also I am sure there is alot more room for the VQ35. Nissan chose to go to a 3.7L just like Acura did for the new 09 TL, RL and MDX.

Unfortuantly Honda decided to restrict the J35 in the Accord 5AT. That engine uses no Variable intake manifold. The dyno comparison with the 6MT is drastically different. Thats one area they could really improve on.
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The correct terminology is Unleaded gas. There is Regular, Plus, Premium(or Super which is the same thing). They all have a minimum octane rating. I am aware of all of this. Its funny that it bothers you so much that I refer to Regular unleaded as unleaded. The only thing that is stupid is you arguing with me over this stupidity. Keep your little bus on your own property!
the term unleaded gas refers to all gasoline , period , you chose to refer to regular 87 octane gas as "unleaded" , you might as well just call it gas because the term unleaded is all gasoline .

p.s. i'll get you a helmet to wear on the little bus .

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Old 08-25-2008, 09:24 AM
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Old 08-25-2008, 07:12 PM
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Since unleaded is the only choice of fuel, calling it unleaded is redundant. Unleaded as opposed to what? Sunoco leaded race gas? You want to refer to it as regular or premium.
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Old 08-26-2008, 01:31 AM
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i had a race last night against an acura tl , i won by 1 car length , i think it was because he was using unleaded gas !!! see i only put unleaded gas in my car which is recommended for the altima , the acura should have used unleaded gas because that makes more power , go unleaded gas
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Old 08-26-2008, 03:07 AM
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i had a race last night against an acura tl , i won by 1 car length , i think it was because he was using unleaded gas !!! see i only put unleaded gas in my car which is recommended for the altima , the acura should have used unleaded gas because that makes more power , go unleaded gas
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Old 08-26-2008, 09:56 AM
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