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I have installed morimoto elite h1 hid kit with relay harness and Bi-Xenon projector. after installing this kit car run very bad it seems like car bogging down. i have to manually change the gear to 3rd and give it a gas if i have to pass someone. so i disconnect relay wire positive and negative from battery and cars run fine all the power comes back. i don't have to manually change the gear anymore. why with this hid kit car bogging down ?
 

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How did you wire this in exactly? Pictures if you can, words to help would be appreciated.

My initial guess is that you are somehow corrupting the engine ground which is interfering with a crap ton of sensors.

1. Does it still run rough with wires connected but HIDs off?
2. Does disconnecting just the relay negative wire resolve the issue?

Please verify the integrity of the negative battery cable, particularly between the chassis and transmission. These cars are notorious for the cables rotting out at this point. If it's rotten, that's almost certainly your issue....assuming you didn't do something overly creative with the harness wiring...
 

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Hello d0ughmac1,
attached you find wiring diagram from morimoto and on page 5 what i followed and light lit up perfectly fine.
yes disconnecting relay negative wire from battery resolve issues. and car run fine just like brand new car.
also i have just replace the negative battery cable with this part no 24080-8j000 also i have clean using sand paper where is mount on the transmission body and classy. also i hace contact morimoto and they told me that we have never heard this before.
 

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Can you test by finding another place to bolt the negative wire to the chassis instead of the battery. Sand to bare metal to ensure solid ground contact with chassis metal. Test engine.

If problem persists, disconnect relay harness connectors from both ballasts, but leave rest of wiring in place. Do you still have the problem? If not, does it come back with either ballast reconnected, or does only one causes the issue?
 

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d0ughmac1,

I think i found the problem. its the alternator pulley. it is a clutch type pulley in our cars.
 

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So the engine perf issues are now unrelated to the HID kit?

The reason I was asking about the different ground was because a lot of cars now, and certainly '07+ have a current sensor in the -ve battery cable which the ECU uses to determine how hard to make the alternator work. Often you have to swap the current sensor block off the old cable and onto the new cable when changing.

BTW you don't need a clutch type pulley, but you can order many aftermarket remans with a clutch pulley if you want one.
 

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So the engine perf issues are now unrelated to the HID kit?

The reason I was asking about the different ground was because a lot of cars now, and certainly '07+ have a current sensor in the -ve battery cable which the ECU uses to determine how hard to make the alternator work. Often you have to swap the current sensor block off the old cable and onto the new cable when changing.

BTW you don't need a clutch type pulley, but you can order many aftermarket remans with a clutch pulley if you want one.
negative battery cable has no sensor. and can't change the location. because the length of the oem cable.
remans alternator is not cheap either.
 

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Ok. Alternator pulley shouldn't cause bogging unless the alternator bearing are shot big time.

What made you go in this direction instead of pursing engine sensor grounds?
 

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Ok. Alternator pulley shouldn't cause bogging unless the alternator bearing are shot big time.

What made you go in this direction instead of pursing engine sensor grounds?
where is the location of this engine sensor grounds ?
 

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Expand my .sig, Click on the Altima FSM link, select your year (or a year from the same variant...ie 02-03. 04-06, 07-09) and open up the PG section. All harness grounds are there.

My gut feel is something isn't well grounded and is inducing a lot of high frequency noise back into the cars electrical system which is causing the ECU issues.

You can test out your alternator theory by temporarily removing the V-belt..but be careful the 2.5 has a belt driven water pump...so you can only run it a short time while cold.
 

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I check all grounds and clean almost every single ground but car is still bogging with hid. so i took it to the dealer and scan it using consult II. and the problem is them hid ballast resetting car computer to default. so the computer is loosing some kind of memory. dealer advised take off hid kit.
 

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That's kinda where I was going....the HID ballasts are causing electrical interference which is causing your ECU issues. Now before you completely give up...try a daytime test, with first one, then the other ballast unplugged and see if one unit alone is the problem. If the bogging issue happens with both, I would try a different brand of ballast and see if that still causes the issue.

Also, did you ever move the HID harness ground OFF the battery terminal? That alone may attenuate interference enough so as not to cause issues with the ECU. You also want to make sure you DON'T run your HID harness wires in parallel with any other harness wiring (much stronger coupling of interference through electromagnetic field...don't worry about the physics....just understand that two wires crossing in an X formation is much better than having them run || for any length). Think of those wires as 'antennas'.
 

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That's kinda where I was going....the HID ballasts are causing electrical interference which is causing your ECU issues. Now before you completely give up...try a daytime test, with first one, then the other ballast unplugged and see if one unit alone is the problem. If the bogging issue happens with both, I would try a different brand of ballast and see if that still causes the issue.

Also, did you ever move the HID harness ground OFF the battery terminal? That alone may attenuate interference enough so as not to cause issues with the ECU. You also want to make sure you DON'T run your HID harness wires in parallel with any other harness wiring (much stronger coupling of interference through electromagnetic field...don't worry about the physics....just understand that two wires crossing in an X formation is much better than having them run || for any length). Think of those wires as 'antennas'.
I give up... no more trying with this stupid morimoto kit every time i take my car to dealer it cost me 100.00 plus to run a diagnostics. i was going threw this since February 2019. today morning i threw the hole kit in dumpster along with projector light and install oem factory light.
 

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I give up... no more trying with this stupid morimoto kit every time i take my car to dealer it cost me 100.00 plus to run a diagnostics. i was going threw this since February 2019. today morning i threw the hole kit in dumpster along with projector light and install oem factory light.
Yeah, I get it.
 
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