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Idle Re-learn

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Well, Nissan has now totally taken away the ability to adjust idle speed. Aside from making sure that ignition timing is correctly (which really is not adjustable except for a very small amount), the idle speed is programmed into the ECU, is not adjustable, and can only be reset by performing the idle-air relearn procedure. Of course, the idle-air relearn simply allows the ECU to re-discover if the target idle rpm is incorrect, allows it to readjust.

It CAN be done without the Consult, but is MUCH easier for the dealer by using the Consult.

Without the consult:

Perform accelerator released position relearn by NOT depressing the accelerator pedal at all:

1) Turn ignition on for at least 2 seconds.
2) Turn ignition off for at least 10 seconds.
3) Turn ignition on for at least 2 seconds
4) Turn ignition off for at least 10 seconds.

Perform throttle closed position relearn by:

1) Turn ignition on for at least 2 seconds.
2) Turn ignition off for at least 2 seconds.

THEN you can perform the idle-air relearn procedure:

1.PRECONDITIONING
Before performing Idle Air Volume Learning, make sure that all of the following conditions are satisfied.
Learning will be cancelled if any of the following conditions are missed for even a moment.
• Battery voltage: More than 12.9V (At idle)
• Engine coolant temperature: 70 - 100°C (158 - 212°F)
• PNP switch: ON (in PARK or NEUTRAL)
• Electric load switch: OFF
(Air conditioner, headlamp, rear window defogger)
On vehicles equipped with daytime light systems, if the parking brake is applied before the engine is
started the headlamp will not be illuminated.
• Steering wheel: Neutral (Straight-ahead position)
• Vehicle speed: Stopped
• Transmission: Warmed-up

• Without CONSULT-III: Drive vehicle for 10 minutes.
- M/T models
• Drive vehicle for 10 minutes.

Without CONSULT-III
NOTE:
• It is better to count the time accurately with a clock.
• It is impossible to switch the diagnostic mode when an accelerator pedal position sensor circuit has
a malfunction.
3. Start engine and warm it up to normal operating temperature.
4. Turn ignition switch OFF and wait at least 10 seconds.
5. Confirm that accelerator pedal is fully released, turn ignition switch ON and wait 3 seconds.
6. Repeat the following procedure quickly five times within 5 seconds.
- Fully depress the accelerator pedal.
- Fully release the accelerator pedal.
7. Wait 7 seconds, fully depress the accelerator pedal and keep it for approx. 20 seconds until the MIL stops
blinking and turned ON.
8. Fully release the accelerator pedal within 3 seconds after the MIL turned ON.
9. Start engine and let it idle.
10. Wait 20 seconds.

Idle speed CVT: 600 ± 50 rpm (in P or N position)
M/T: 600 ± 50 rpm (in Neutral position)
Ignition timing CVT: 12 ± 5° BTDC (in P or N position)
M/T: 12 ± 5° BTDC (in Neutral position)

Entering the ECU into the idle-air relearn follows the same procedure as pulling fault codes from the ECU, except once the CEL starts flashing, just keep the pedal to the floor. Once it stops flashing and turns solid, let off the pedal and start the engine.

Hope this helps,
Trav
I just installed a Plenum spacer, and after 2 days, the CEL came on so I had to search around to find the relearn procedure for the 4th gens. So here it is copied and pasted if anyone needs it. I may move it to the FAQ later.
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I'm gonna put it in the FAQ section
Can someone please tell me what it means repeat 5x circle in yellow?
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What step#3 means is to repeat step#4 five times quickly within 5 seconds.
What step#3 means is to repeat step#4 five times quickly within 5 seconds.
Thankx bro,, do u think this will work on a 2009 nissan altima?
Thankx bro,, do u think this will work on a 2009 nissan altima?
The idle relearn procedure described in this thread will work for the 2002 to the newest Altimas.
What forces a re-learn? I ask for the knowledge base, I have no need of it so far on a '17 and '11, they go right back to a perfect idle when battery gets disconnected.

I suspect part of it is moving the TB throttle plate off its' stopped position, thinking ECM has that marked and a change makes it drop idle setting.
What forces a re-learn? I ask for the knowledge base, I have no need of it so far on a '17 and '11, they go right back to a perfect idle when battery gets disconnected.

I suspect part of it is moving the TB throttle plate off its' stopped position, thinking ECM has that marked and a change makes it drop idle setting.
Yes, ive clean the TB and MAF and is there anything to fix it, I tried the steps above but still low idle,
The idle relearn procedure described in this thread will work for the 2002 to the newest Altimas.
Still not working for me,, i have a push button, ive did it over 10x and still low idle.. beside i have a leak in my catalac converter and i did the scan tool (no codes)
A clogged PCV valve will try to drag idle lower but TB is supposed to adjust for it.

Cat leak needs fixing, if bad enough that can tilt things wonky. Adds too much O2 and then engine richens idle up to artificially rich.
A clogged PCV valve will try to drag idle lower but TB is supposed to adjust for it.

Cat leak needs fixing, if bad enough that can tilt things wonky. Adds too much O2 and then engine richens idle up to artificially rich.
i change the pcv valve and still low idle,, starting warm up goes (rpm 600to 650) then drops when warm to 0 rpm but NO sputtering
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GREAT! Thanks for the advices; I want also divide my successful experience in 1) teaching the accelerator/gas pedal and in 2) teaching the throttle body closed position and 3) idle air volume learning and 4) resetting engine warning light from instrumentation panel. I di yesterday all these successfully with my friend's Micra K12 1,2 but it goes the same with may Nissans, which had high idle 1500 rpm and a bit other difficulties in running. All was cleared with this.

BTW: It did not pass the emission control, but for that it needed only a short additional earthing/grounding wire to give better earthing to first lambda (black wire before the first plug coming from ECU to lambda to be connected with extra wire to ground.) This additional earthing helped that a bit rough hiccups in idle, but the main thing was that the emissions were just like PERFECT after that. So the reason there was the lack of earthing in ECU for the lambdas and solution cost was some 10 cents only.


Please enjoy - just follow these and all should be solved.

TOOLS NEEDED: stopwatch or timer showing seconds.

ACCELERATOR PEDAL RELEASED POSITION LEARNING - Better to be done when engine is cold; may work when hot, as well.


1. Make sure that accelerator pedal is fully released.
2. Turn ignition switch ON and wait at least 2 seconds.
3. Turn ignition switch OFF and wait at least 10 seconds.
4. Turn ignition switch ON and wait at least 2 seconds.
5. Turn ignition switch OFF and wait at least 10 seconds.

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THROTTLE VALVE CLOSED POSITION LEARNING - Better to be done when engine is cold; may work when engine is hot, as well.

1. Make sure that accelerator pedal is fully released.
2. Turn ignition switch ON.
3. Turn ignition switch OFF and wait at least 10 seconds.
4. Make sure that throttle valve moves during above 10 seconds by confirming the operating sound.

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What I learned in this; it was difficult to get all done in correct time. It is so confusing. When all is not OK and done in time and properly, you will see it when the light should start blinking in item 7. If it does not start, you can start all again form the beginning. It happened me twice and managed to get the light blinking on third time: But I was so surprised that did not remember what to do next! ;) So - start all again from the beginning; but then I managed immediately. Maybe it would be helpful to have someone committed to read the paper and give instructions all that time.



IDLE AIR VOLUME LEARNING - to be done when engine is hot

1. First perform the Accelerator Released Position and then the Throttle Valve Closed Position procedure as was shown above.

2. Warm up engine/transmission at this point by driving on the road for not less than 30 minutes; warming up the car in the garage doesn’t cut it!

3. Put the car in Park, turn off all electrical powered stuff, wheels turned straight.

4. Turn key OFF and wait at least 10 seconds.

5. Turn key ON (not ignition) and start stopwatch at same time.

6. When stopwatch is at 3 seconds, press & release accelerator pedal 5 times fully and quickly within 5 seconds.

7. Wait 7 seconds or more then fully press the accelerator pedal and hold for approximately 20 seconds or more until the check engine light stops blinking and constantly stays on.
(note: If the CEL never starts blinking, then something is not working and you'd better start over again).

8. Within 3 seconds after the check engine light stays constantly on, release the accelerator pedal.

9. Immediately start the engine and let it idle. It may still likely be a high-rev/pulsating idle.

10. Let it run for no less then 20 seconds, then rev the engine a few times.

11. With foot on brake, shift into Drive. Idle should now go down under 1000 rpm. Shift to Park again, and the car should find its regular idle speed. Operation will be normal except theCEL may still be on. It may disappear soon on its own, or you can do the following:

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Nissan Electronic Throttle Body (ETB) Re-Learn Procedure - YouTube

EASY RESET OF CHECK ENGINE LIGHT (CEL)

1. Turn key OFF and wait at least 10 seconds
2. Turn key ON (no ignition), wait 3 seconds, then press & release accelerator 5x hard and quickly.
3. Wait 10 seconds, then fully press accelerator.
4. After about 12 seconds CEL will go off then start blinking. As soon as it starts blinking, release the accelerator.
5. Wait 10 seconds, then fully press accelerator again.
6. Wait 10 seconds, then release the accelerator again.
7. Turn the key to off, then immediately start the engine. The CEL should be gone now.
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