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steel rims, work with tire pressure monitoring system?

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#1 ·
hi
i have a 2007 altima 3.5 se with 17" wheels
im looking to install plain black steel wheels and snow tires (215/60/16) same overall diameter, do i need nissan rims, or any steel rims with the proper offset will work?
thanks
dan
 
#2 ·
Any rims will work as long as the TPMS sensor will fit it. You are going to have to take one of two roads:
1) Buy sensors for the winter tires for about $15+ a piece and find steelies that they will work with (probably most), OR
2) Forget about the sensors and put a piece of tape over the warning light.

Your choice. Most people choose option (2).
 
#4 ·
langjie said:
Just so you know how TPMS works...

Tire Pressure Monitoring System - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Image

Looks like the sensor is right on the valve stem
For our particular system it's like that (that graphic is actually from the company that provides the pieces to Nissan).

However, one thing I failed to mention, is that everytime you switch the sensors/rims, you will have to take your car to a dealership to get the new sensors registered with the car. Otherwise having the sensor won't make a lick of a difference!
 
#6 ·
I actually have a call into Shraeder to find out how much the little tool is to do it yourself. Just to have around.
 
#9 ·
Steel rims, work with tire pressure monitoring system?

We own two 2007 Altima's.

We put snow tires on steel rims on both cars this winter. The TPM light flashes and then turns on solid, (light on all the time.) The small light does not bother us; we just look at it as a reminder that there are snow tires mounted on the car.
When we put the regular all season tires on alloy wheels back on the car the TPM light will turn off.
Before I went ahead and bought snow tires and steel wheels, I asked the dealership about it and they told me most of their customers who mount snow tires/steel wheels on their cars have declined to install TPS sensors in the rims due to the cost of the sensors. Any one who tells you they are $15 each for sensors is full of it. The cheapest price I was able to get in Canada was $80cdn each and in the US the price quoted was $65.USD each. I was able to find aftermarket sensors for $50cdn but I was told by the parts jobber selling them that there “could be” compatibility problems using these aftermarket sensors with an OEM system
 
#10 ·
I have seen the TPMS sensors for as little as $25, and heard of them being sold for $15.
 
#11 ·
From what I have read it is federal law in the U.S. that all 2007 models be equipped with a TPM system, no such requirement as yet in Canada. I am sure as the TPM systems on vehicles becomes the norm that TPM sensors will become common and the price of them in the future will be no more than the cost of a comparable high quality tire valve. If you can find out where I can get Nissan compatible TPM sensors for $15 USD please post the name and location of the company I need 8 of them.
 
#12 ·
I don't know where to get them for $15 right now, but I TireRack.com supposedly has them for $25. Sorry... but at least that's better than $65.
 
#13 ·
Sorry to Revive an Old Thread but...?

I went this weekend to get some quotes for winter tires and rims and was told by three tire dealers that they will NOT sell or install winter wheels and tires for me without the TPMS sensor. They stated that they are liable if they knowingly disable a cars safety features and thus must put the sensors into each wheel. Has anyone else run into this? Any work arounds anybody can suggest? I am in BC, Canada by the way.
 
#15 ·
I went this weekend to get some quotes for winter tires and rims and was told by three tire dealers that they will NOT sell or install winter wheels and tires for me without the TPMS sensor. They stated that they are liable if they knowingly disable a cars safety features and thus must put the sensors into each wheel. Has anyone else run into this? Any work arounds anybody can suggest? I am in BC, Canada by the way.
Easy, just don't take your car in...
 
#18 ·
I live in Vancouver and just ordered 4 steelies and Pilot Alpins without sensors. I hope ICBC doesn't throw a fit if I ever do get into an accident caused by under inflated tires. Will they do that if I had TPMS and ran on wheels without the sensors? Really rare situation so I hope that never happens to me. Still waiting for the set to come in. I probably won't put them on right away
 
#20 · (Edited)
Well, the recommended size is 215/60/16 but you can go with 205/60/16 if you want a narrower tire. Top rated brands seem to be Nokian, Toyo, Goodyear and Dunlop but there are many others that are just fine. I think any winter tire is going to be better than all seasons. For some reason I saw that 205's would slightly affect the speedo but I am not sure why if the tire is only narrower and the overall diameter is the same. Still waiting for my Dunlop Wintersport M3's, supposed to be in this week!
 
#21 ·
Yes, believe it or not I found this in the Owners Manual. Those of us that have both the TPMS and the VDC must use the factory sized tires and wheels or you will get indications from either system that something isn't quite right. I'm paraphrasing but I checked with the service manager at my stealership and he said the same thing. So unless you're ready to put up with the false signals all winter, you better stick with the original sizes.

BTW, did you know that those of us with 17" wheels c/w TPMS and VDC have a full size spare because of these features?
 
#24 ·
I considered putting winter tires on another set of steelies with sensors vs. a full changeover onto my OEM alloys.

I wasn't satisfied with bypassing the TPMS and letting the light go on for the next 4-5 months.

After doing some homework, I figured it would cost me $700+ for steel rims with a 2nd set of TPMS sensors ($70/tire + $115/sensor). In addition, it would cost me $20 per change (yes, free if I do it myself). Also, ~$30 for the dealership or tire shop to reset my sensors (the tire shop's price).

The changeover with OEM alloys would cost me $80 per change using the EOM alloys.

I amortized it over 10 years (before taxes):

Steelies with sensors: $1740
Changeover with OEM alloys: $1600

These estimate don't include the tires, BTW.

I decided to go with the changeover. This way, I don't have to get hubcaps over the steelies plus I get my tires balanced twice a year. If the price of the sensors drop (I'm sure they will) getting the steelies may be a better option.
 
#25 ·
Hello all, I agree with all of CVTFAN's info except most tire shops do not charge you anything for the changeover when you purchase the rims and tires from them. Otherwise those estimates look accurate. I purchased Dunlop Wi:)ntersport M3's on steel rims which were about $1400 installed, the sensors were approx. $475 with taxes and all. It appears only Nissan can reset the sensor at this point, tire shop tried to do it, it worked for a while and then the light came on. So you would have to pay the $30 for sensor reset with each changeover. Either method is good, I just suggest you get winter tires if you drive in snow.
 
#28 ·
Did $1400 include the sensors? Are you running 16" or 17" rims?

I checked with the dealer, and a number of tire shops and was told that there isn't a 17" steel rim made for the 07 Altima. I ended up doing a changeover to my factory alloys. I'm OK with that, because I plan on buying new rims next summer.

I also purchased the Dunlop Wintersport M3's. These are very nice tires. Quieter than my original Bridgestones. Handle much better as well. I can hardly wait to see what these will do in the snow.

$840.00 installed. (Canadian pricing)
 
#26 ·
TPMS Part Number

I want to buy a set of steel rims for winter tires and want to install a new set of TPMS on them. Does anyone know what is the part number for these TPMS for Altima 2.5S? And when installed do I need to go to Nissan dealer to reset the TPMS everytime I change from winter to OEM all season tires?

HS:sad:
 
#30 ·
And when installed do I need to go to Nissan dealer to reset the TPMS everytime I change from winter to OEM all season tires?
HS:sad:
The short answer is maybe. batchelor22 mentioned that his tire shop was able to reset the sensors, but that it didn't stick and that he'd have to bring it back to the dealership. I don't think many tire shops have invested in the tech to reset these sensors yet (not all auto makes require a reset, but Nissan does). Try a search. Early answers to switching sensors (not a changeover) is that a reset is required.
 
#31 · (Edited)
It appears at present that ONLY Nissan can reset the car to read the new sensors. The problem is not the sensors but the Altima's computer which I am not sure I would want the Tire shop playing around with anyway. I have 16" steelies and tires. I am hoping that Nissan may think of us poor cold weather customers and update the computer to be able to recognize two sets of sensors. The $1400 was for the tires and rims, installation, balancing all of that stuff, the sensor price was extra. I just ordered them from Nissan and then gave them to the Tire shop to mount in the steelies when they arrived. I am very happy with the M3's so far. This is all a bit of a cash outlay but it is what you have to do when you live in the Great White North and trust me BC is not as bad as other provinces or states like North Dakota that I have spent some winter time in!
 
#32 · (Edited)
Ouch! So that's a total of $1875 initial outlay?

I got the M3s mounted and balanced on my OEMs for about $800. It's those TPMS sensors and the reset that turned me off. The Mazda's M3s are mounted on steelies, so that's only $40/year for the 2 bolt-ons compared to the Altima's $160/year for the 2 changeovers. It's just a hassle for me if it snows BEFORE I get the tires changed over. That plus the 4 hr+ line-ups at tire shops when the tempurature drops to freezing.

Again, with a second set of sensors with reset on steelies, if amortized over 10 years, you may break even. Without the sensors and reset on steelies, the break even is only 2-3 years.

If you can buy the right snows from the Nissan dealership and include free sensor updates twice a year (IN WRITING!), that'll reduce your cost (but you pay more for the tires, I'm sure). Don't know how feasible it is to get the dealership to agree to that.
 
#34 ·
Well here's an interesting bit. I've been reading this thread carefully because I was going to put my winter tires/wheels on. I had them installed 4 days ago. The "exclamation" light came on as soon as I turned on the car. Then it never came back on. Funny thing is, I'm still looking for the "warning light" for the TPMS. Nothing as of yet.

Could it be that in the 2008's (not sure if this feature is only on the 2008's) Nissan set a function that if there are no TPMS in any of the 4 tires that it will ignore the warning.
 
#36 ·
^:)

I was waiting for the update that the light just went on.

Someone else on another thread in the same situation noticed the same thing... and then that afternoon the light went on.

Well, if someone in your car notices the warning light, just tell them it's to tell you that you have winter tires mounted and that it'll go off once spring hits (It's true!). I'm thinking Nissan didn't bother to make this TPMS system smarter. It's current system forces those with more than 1 set of tires and rims to get additional sensors ($115 each) and require the sensor reset at the dealership (at least $30). I'd prefer the Mini's calibration button.