Well my timing chaing was making a TON of noise. It sounded like I had 4 or 5 half dollars rolling around in the head. So I pop the valve cover off to take off the top guide, and the guide was just sitting on the chain. It had completely broken off where it attaches to the head and was sitting on the chain. It made it taking it out easier. So for those of you who drive your car hard and are approaching 100k for mileage, go take your top guide off...I will have pics later tonight.